I decided to have a green tea because it’s healthier than soda. It’s healthier, right?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10389239/

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The first time I saw a bag like that, I was shocked as well. Seems like just the worst idea to use plastic to create tea bags. Turns out it is and they weren’t made out of plastic. It’s a starch based fiber that is biodegradable. I don’t think you could have plastic tea bags here in the EU in any case. I’d wager yours isn’t plastic either. Yeah, so you probably got mildly infuriated over nothing, just like I did the first time I saw one of these 🤷

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https://youtu.be/limwsUnH4iQ?feature=shared

Regular teabags are sometimes made using non-biodegradable plastic - be sure to buy those made with this starch based plastic. When I first saw biodegradable teabags I was surprised, I thought teabags were made of paper. Not so, it turns out.

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that was interesting, thanks!

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there’s still a decent chance it’s only industrially biodegradable: at higher temperatures and pressures than a good ol’ home compost pile normally ever gets near. It could still be a bit infuriating.

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It’s dope having municipal compost pickup, guys.

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2 points

This is almost always the case. If it’s biodegradable at room temperature and pressure, it’ll be degrading once you get it.

We’re probably best off converting most of our things into industrially biodegradable products, and then having our waste go to composting plants instead of landfills.

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I can’t really find a source for it, but I remember the EU banning plastic in tea bags quite recently, a few years ago at most. Here in the Netherlands, a lot of tea bags contain(ed) plastic as some kind of sealant.

Also, a lot of tea contains sugar, for no good reason whatsoever.

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Also, a lot of tea contains sugar

In the form of fruit or added? If it’s the latter, they will have messed up something as simple as tea even further. When they started packaging them in airtight plastic (preventing one from smelling what you are considering to buy) and wrap every single tea bag in plastic, I already got mad.

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Added sugar, that is. A lot of tea bags contain ‘aroma’, according to the ingredient list. However, this ‘aroma’ can be 60-70% sugar.

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I’m glad they stopped using metal staples on them too. That always bugged me.

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Plastic tea bags are really disappointing. It’s not enough that plastic is everywhere thanks to tire dust, I have to drink it, too? Cool.

At home, I use loose leaf and a metal strainer. Makes less waste, and there’s no plastic.

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I have to drink it, too?

If it makes you feel any better, there’s so much microplastic everywhere that there was going to be plastic in that water regardless of what the tea bag was made of.

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And there’s not even really anything you can do about it. Reverse osmosis should be able to get rid of microplastics but the fucking containers for the filters are plastic and the lines running between them are plastic so they’re just going to reintroduce microplastics even after filtering!

There was a recent study showing that boiling water could actually break down and remove a surprising number of microplastics so I guess for making tea you might be a little better off but still

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That’s a little hyperbolic. There’s a lot of mechanics at play in generating microplastics. Fabrics have microscopically thin strands of plastics. It should be no surprise that rubbing up against thousands of tiny strands every time we move and wash synthetic fabric clothes releases many tiny particles. Plus clothes have to deal with UV degradation making the plastic more brittle.

The plastic components in an RO system should be specced to not leach plasticizers. They should have smooth walls and laminar flow. There shouldn’t be much to abrade the plastic surfaces and shed particles. They may not be perfect, but water from an RO system will have orders of magnitude fewer microplastics. So an RO system still “does something about it.”

We do need to address the problem, but I wouldn’t want people to avoid beneficial remediation just because it has some plastic components.

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Boiling plus filtering (like the metal grid filter in many kettles)

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I just got into tea and have had a rough time finding a brand to buy that is loose leaf. They always end up being tea bags like this. Any suggestions for brands?

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Loose tea isn’t very common on supermarket shelves. If you live near a store that has a bulk section, then they might have loose tea in bulk. I end up ordering online from Stash or Harney & Sons

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Thanks, I’ll give these a try.

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You should probably try looking for local tea shops. They tend to just import the tea directly from distributors or even producers and bag it themselves. This might not be the cheapest option but easily the highest quality one.

If none are available nearby, hey, business opportunity!

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I don’t seem to have any local stores nearby. T_T

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Celestial Seasonings and PG tips are good grocery store brands with paper bags, but for loose leaf it’s worth seeing if you have a local tea shop. If there’s nowhere nearby, there’s some great online sellers. I’m a fan of Adagio and David’s tea.

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Bigalow has paper bags, the only annoyance is that they come in individual wrappers made of paper/foil/(possibly plastic lining?).

Lipton came in paper pouches wrapped in paper last time I saw one.

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Order online! TenRen Teas has the best tea, imo, while Adagio has mid to high quality at a decent price and a wide variety of types and flavors.

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My local coffee roaster also sells loose leaf teas from a local company, and their tea is excellent. I grab some tea when I refill on coffee.

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I’ve actually had good luck at a local Indian market. Also, places that are specifically tea retailers or online markets will be more likely to have it.

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If you’ve got an Asian grocery store near you they’ll most likely have loose leaf. I got into pu’er tea this way and it’s fantastic!

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Just search loose tea leaves in your mother tongue and you’ll find some. Ordering online might be interesting as well these days

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Tire dust? Tires are generaly made from a kind of rubber, not plastic. A great majority of micro plastics that end up in enviroment and in your body are shed from plastic fabrics. If you’re really worried about limiting plastic consumption check your clothing tags for polyester and nylon. Return to cotton, hemp, and linen.

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Synthetic rubber like SBR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Styrene-butadiene

Tires and brakes are a major source: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-17201-9

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Tyres are unfortunately plastics in this day and age as well.

As for the share of microplastic pollution, both rank about equally as high: 35% for clothes, 28% for tyres (https://www.europarl.europa.eu/topics/en/article/20181116STO19217/microplastics-sources-effects-and-solutions) - this as a share of directly released particles that make it into the ocean.

Note the interesting fact of fishing nets, plastic bags and bottles making up the vast majority of plastic in the ocean, however.

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There’s one study I’m aware of that has tires as being responsible for up to 40% of oceanic microplastics

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Tires are generaly made from a kind of rubber, not plastic

Both are made of polymers.

Rubber, also known as latex, is naturally occurring polymer from the sap of a specific species of tree.

“Synthetic rubber”, is in fact, plastic.

Po-TAY-to, po-TAH-to

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Are we sure thats not the commonly used silk tea bag? Why do we think this is plastic?

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They are from polylactid and decompose without a trace and without microplastic. Paper tea bags on the other hand often contain around 20% polypropylene and cause microplastic.

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Despite claims to the contrary, PLA does usually break down into microplastics. It’s possible that under certain conditions (such as those found in industrial composters) those microplastics might be broken down into starches and consumed by bacteria, but most teabags will just end up in landfill and won’t break down beyond microplastics.

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These microplastics are digestible by your immune system, though, which makes them ultimately harmless. PLA is used for drug delivery for this reason.

Being concerned about incomplete PLA degradation is like being concerned about a piece of wood breaking down into micro-woods. Yet even if you get a dangerous shard of micro-wood embedded in your skin, your body can deal with this cellose polymer just fine.

Ultimately it will break down completely someday and in the meantime, nothing will be harmed.

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If it’s at least possible for those micro plastics to be broken down, would it really matter if they don’t break down ina landfill? Either they stay in the landfill forever causing no problems or they leach out / blow away outside of the landfill and voila, proper conditions to be broken down into starches and consumed by bacteria.

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Arghh, two conflicting replies. What do we do?!!

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9 points

Eat Taco Bell and see who shits themselves first.

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8 points

A gentlemen’s duel for the modern age.

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Aw fuck I’m shitting myself right now and I haven’t even started eating taco bell what do I win

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…and who would be the winner?

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Silk is expensive. Almost all pyramidal tea bags are nylon and/or polyester (at least in the US). Only premium stuff is going to be made of silk and they’ll advertise it as such

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God I hate those. Paper tea bags you can toss into the fireplace or in the compost depending on the time of year, but those plastic ones you can’t do anything but chuck them into the trash.

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Paper tea bags usually contain polypropylene or another plastic so they can be heat sealed shut. They aren’t fully compostable.

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Certainly in the UK, there has been a real push for fully compostible teabags. Clipper Tea and PG are fully compostable. Yorkshire Tea was not, last time I looked - which is why I stopped drinking it.

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Huh, TIL.
They’re now using plant based PLA, at least.

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I’d except the land of Her Majesty the 5 o’clock Tea to be at the forefront of teatech.

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They make disposable tea bags made of the same paper as coffee filters

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Buy loose tea and tea bags.
Test tea bags by burning them. No residue? They should be free of plastics.

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Or: a reusable metal tea strainer. You just need to take 2 minutes every time to clean it but they’re no excess waste whatsoever

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Though I bought relatively large paper-based filters before that explicitly said they were fully compostable. And since loose tea beats bagged tea 90% of the time anyways…

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Well shit. I guess I’m gonna have a lot of micro plastics in my compost then.

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Spoiler, you already do whether or not you compost those.

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Yeah, except those are actually from polylactid and decompose completely without microplastic. Paper tea bags on the other hand are often mixed with polypropylene and ironically contain microplastic and don’t decompose completely. The best way is a tea strainer anyway

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Are you sure those aren’t nylon bags? Anyway I’ve found PLA’s biodegradability highly over rated. When Sunchips were doing those PLA bags I threw one into a worm bin, when I emptied the bin a year later it looked pretty much unchanged.

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Tbf: I’m from germany and can only speak for our local market.

Yes PLAs decompose slow and waaay slower than advertising suggests and need certain conditions, but they are still the better choice over polypropylene.

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Tbf: I’m from germany and can only speak for our local market.

Yes PLAs decompose slow and waaay slower than advertising suggests and need certain conditions, but they are still the better choice over polypropylene.

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But it’s cheaper and more convenient! Why’d you care about the future, you a commie? /s

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Is that even tea? It looks like broccoli and carrots.

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Soup is just vegetable and bone tea

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bone apple tea

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bone tea

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Tea is just a different kind of vegetable soup.

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Op out just making dumpling tea

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