184 points

Pretty sure it’s always been upfront with that it still tracks you? I always thought of it as a “don’t store history and cookies locally” thing and nothing more. Maybe I read that disclaimer with more cynicism than most?

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Yeah, it has always been the “don’t log my porn activity” mode. I don’t understand how so many people misinterpret it as some kind of privacy protection mode.

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Yeah, it has always been the “don’t log my porn activity” mode. I don’t understand how so many people misinterpret it as some kind of privacy protection mode.

Well, also the “log into your accounts on someone else’s machine without storing the account in the browser” mode. Or the “shop for your partner’s gifts without leaving a trail” mode. But yeah, primarily for porn.

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4 points

But yeah, primarily for porn.

https://piped.video/watch?v=LTJvdGcb7Fs

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21 points

Yeah I feel the same way.

I admit that I know quite a bit about computers and such but I thought everyone knew private mode isn’t intended to stop any tracking.

Pretty sure some browsers by default enable extra tracking protections when in private mode but that’s just an extra feature.

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Yeah, most websites do fingerprinting. I doubt Firefox is immune to it either. In fact, it probably makes it worse since there’s so few people using it.

https://amiunique.org/fingerprint shows me as being unique in both browsers, and that’s without even taking into account IP address which narrows you down to people on your connection anyway. Only a VPN will hide that.

They don’t need cookies to track your visits. Yet apparently they still need to ask if you want to share data with 2184 trusted data partners every time you visit without them, so maybe they can pack that the fuck in.

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8 points

I visited that site and rejected the cookies

I am now untraceable on the Internet

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10 points

it’s always been upfront

The language it uses/used to use was rather ambiguous, especially for less tech savvy people.

Perhaps it wasn’t false, but it definitely wasn’t upfront.

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11 points

What about it is ambiguous or not written for less tech savvy people?

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3 points

You do know they updated it soon after this became a major thing, right?

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-7 points

It is implied that google is not storing any tracking information…

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6 points

“Always”? Nope.

“If you’re concerned, for whatever reason, you do not wish to be tracked by federal and state authorities, my strong recommendation is to use [Google Chrome’s] incognito mode.”

  • Eric Schmidt, 2014

Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/01/05/super-cookies-can-track-you-over-google-incognito/

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110 points

I’m just using it to prevent my depraved, shameful porn searches from entering my browser’s autocomplete corpus. Learned that one fairly early on.

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30 points

typing: 'p…

Autocomplete: “YOU WANTED PORNHUB.COM, RIGHT?”

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16 points

even worse, my university website’s page starts with portal.*

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6 points

This is why we visit porkbun every few weeks. We’re not actually registering domains that frequently ;)

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3 points

A man who never eats pork buns, is never a whole man!

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No, you mean when you’re shopping for presents for your loved ones and you want to keep it a surprise.

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16 points

THAT ONE!! Ahm. Yes. That one.

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1 point

When I was a kid, porn was the first thing I search for on Google.

Imagine my shock when Internet Explorer kept suggesting what I had searched whenever I started typing in the Google search box…

It took me a while to understand that it wasn’t Google, it was my browser

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People could just use another browser profile, with it’s own set of bookmarks and uBlock in strict mode… Never saw much sense in “incognito” mode.

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43 points

Why don’t we replace the low effort open incogento mode with a more convoluted creating of a browser profile and installation and configuration of an app. You’re full of the best ideas.

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Copy paste the profile and done. And it’s more incognito than “incognito” mode.

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2 points

I use an entirely different browser (vivaldi), that way I can have all the logins and bookmarks and cookies I want and not have to worry about it.

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The op link hit a paywall for me, this one is working:

https://web.archive.org/web/20240401221646/https://www.wired.com/story/google-chrome-incognito-mode-data-deletion-settlement/

the company will now pay “zero” dollars as part of the settlement after earlier facing a $5 billion penalty.

I guess they would call that a win

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45 points

And they’re allowed to start doing it again in 5 years

block third-party cookies within Incognito mode for five years

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14 points

Fuck google

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It’s both a generational shift and education issue.

I grew up remembering the early days of going online. The only pc at home was shared by family, so I knew early on that covering my tracks (erasing browser history) was important. When Chrome came out and incognito mode became a thing, I instinctively knew that it was just a shortcut for a separate browser profile that does not share the main profiles cookies and history, that it didn’t store activities on the local device. I knew that internet providers could still know what I acceded, and so on.

I can’t ask for the same kind of awareness for people that grew up with smartphones, proprietary walled gardens and apps with most of the complexities hidden beneath pretty UI.

It’s even worse when it comes to the general population - this isn’t the 90s where college students and tech minded people made up the internet users, this isn’t the early 2000s where people still had to use a desktop PC to access the web, with its components more or less open to tinker.

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Tbh, today was the first day I realized that people see privacy mode as something else then “privacy from other users on the same browser”. But yeah, makes sense that people who learned about the internet on a smartphone see things differently.

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47 points

Am I the only one who knew Incognito mode simply didn’t keep history or cookies on the local machine?

I always assumed nothing changed on Google’s end.

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Yeah I’ve always assumed incognito mode is just for when you don’t want to have it save to your browser history or if you want to be able to log into a second account on a website.

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To be fair, I don’t think the average user would think that Google, the creator of that Incognito Mode, would keep the data.

Incognito Mode warns specifically that websites the user navigates to may still keep records, but I don’t think it says anything about the creator of the browser keeping records (unless, of course, you visit their website).

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I wonder if they’d be in the same trouble if they’d kept it simple by saying:

“This mode simply doesn’t keep history or cookies on the local computer.”

That would not suggest that anything is different anywhere else.

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3 points

You’re not the only one. But it might as well be a magic box for many people.

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Nah it’s basically the button cops press when they want to kill someone that turns off their body cam except it’s for when you don’t want the CIA to see you crank it to clown fart porn

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