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132 points

Way too many people are absolutely appalled when I say I don’t care if some of my taxes go to keeping lazy people alive, inside, fed, and warm. I don’t care if someone is not working because they’re disabled, being educated, looking for a job, or just lazy, no one should live without basic human dignity.

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32 points

I mean at this point scarcity is artificial

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For a few more years, at least, til they reinvent the real thing with climate apocalypse. Even if we turn around right now; incomprehensible numbers of people are going to die to this. Every day adds more.

We have built most of the machinery necessary to create a kind of heaven, and the fuckers we allow to have control of it are using everything we give them to create hell. Every breath they draw is a shame we all must carry.

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24 points

What else is labor good for if not making things better? I want to chase improvement, not profit.

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19 points

FR FR, defrauding the system should be punished, not prevented, because right now preventative measures are very obviously doing jack shit in actual service to the public

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I’m not even talking about fraud. I think someone should still be entitled to a basic existence even if they don’t want to work. Like sure, don’t give them an Xbox Series X, but, give them food and heat. Maybe even an Xbox 360. What are those, like $30?

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My point is that the argument for not doing that derives from paranoia about the system being defrauded by the unscrupulous poor or whatever

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1 point

I only find my life fulfilled if I have the latest systems, games, and full online services for each.

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18 points

Laziness is NOT an existential threat.

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13 points

I will gladly accept if my taxes go to someone lazy if it means people that need it are getting the assistance they need. It’ll happen anyways may as well help people who need it. That said I don’t condone people scamming the system but it’s either very high administration costs or people that need it don’t get it usually. I went on assistance once, needed it short term, recall some dude talking about how it was his weekend spending money. Annoying to hear but I got the assistance I needed for that short time till I got a job. Always felt my attitude would fit better in some European or Scandinavian countries but I’m older now and don’t speak anything other than English.

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I agree so much. The vast majority of people wants to work to some degree anyway because they tend to feel useless and bored and go nuts. I see this in the huge number of refugees every day, they are going insane waiting for their documents to be approved so they can finally look for a job, be it just McDonald’s. And those who don’t - well so be it. I’d rather have someone unemployed and “lazy” than half assing some job they hate.

I’d love to have a system where everything mentioned in the meme is provided and everyone pays like 90% taxes. You get an apartment in an appropriate size not more than 15 minutes from your workplace. You get basic groceries provided and if you want truffles or crazy imported fruit you still have your 10% for that. Those 10% can go to whatever you like. You have housing. You have food. You have clothing. You have infrastructure and all your basic and medium needs are met. Save up for a trip somewhere, buy weird groceries, jewelry, go to a restaurant.

And there are just natural leaders and politicians and whatnot. I am sure that people will still want to have a “career” for money unrelated reasons. Imagine a manager who actually rocks at managing a team instead of an asshole who only does this job because it pays better. Likewise, and this hurts me so much when I see this on the playground, “low end jobs” would still be done because a lot of people love the idea of doing construction, waiting, cooking, cleaning. Garbage men are being looked up to by kids. Kids naturally love these kinds of jobs but somewhere along the way to adulthood the social stigma kicks in and the realisation that these jobs pay shit keeps them from going down these roads.

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Mood. I’m more concerned that these filthy middle men who work to actively ruin everything get most of my money.

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Minor nitpick: if it’s snowing outside (and you can do so), then wear a fucking sweater inside! Heating a whole room by a few degrees when you could just not run around with a T-shirt is just so wasteful.

If you can’t wear one, because you’re disabled, then ignore my rant, please.

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Electricity companies hate this trick!

For real I dont understand why people forget that they can just wear thicker clothes even at home. And they complain the electricity is expensive

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But let’s not forget the fact that a heart pump would be great, if ran minimally and a small fireplace is not going break the bank. So don’t think heating is a complete burden, enjoy the fruits of labor we all work hard on.

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This is the real answer, with the efficiency of a heat pump you can have your t-shirt and wear it (guilty free) too.

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Because electricity is used for more than just heating: running computer, charging phone, lighting living space, keeping food eadible and making food.

Ok, last one is heating too, but for another purpose.

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8 points

Significantly lowering indoors temperatures can have detrimental effects on health, particularly for elderly people. Also, electricity should be sufficiently accessible and cheap that I don’t need to freeze my butt off in my home in order to pay the bills.

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You’re reading waay too much into my comment. I specifically said that there were exceptions and only said that you shouldn’t heat up to t-shirt temperatures.

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I suppose it’s not you I’m annoyed with actually. It just rubbed me the wrong way. We’ve had 13-15C indoors this winter in order to afford the power bill, and that’s with geothermal and a decently isolated house. Combined increases in grid fees and electricity price have multiplied our power bill five-fold the past years (and that’s with everything else inflating also).

Next winter we’ll hopefully have cleared the chimney and start burning wood again during the most expensive parts of winter.

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7 points

Ah, to be young again and not have your hands and feed start freezing indoors when it starts getting chilly outside…

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5 points

Yes dress for winter even indoors, but once my nose and extremities and phalanges get cold, I’m turning on the heater.

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1 point

Fine. So long you don’t heat it up to 28°C

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Fair comment, just wanted to add that it depends on the humidity and shelter condition. Dry cold is perfectly comfortable with extra layers - I’ve heard many stories of relatives sleeping outside in snow caves or under layers of snow over animal skins - but depending on how badly insulated your house is and how close to the ground (the answers for which, for most people in the situation of the comic, are: badly and low) you may not have much of a choice.

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And honestly it’s so cozy to be in a chilly room in a toasty wool wrap.

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I do that, but I also have fish tanks without a heater which can’t go below a certain temperature, so there is a fine balance that must be maintained.

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We seem to love building thin-walled wooden boxes entirely above-ground and living in them.

Is “fat” a suitable disability for sweater forgiveness? Asking for a friend … whom I accidentally ate.

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38 points

If everyone has a home how can I look down on the homeless and drug addicted while I drink cheap bourbon?

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23 points

Humanity runs on

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13 points

Gesundheit.

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28 points

If only we could codify these ‘rights’ into some kind of a ‘bill’…

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27 points

Everyone is talking about the politics, but there’s that symbol in the bottom right that drew my attention. Is it some encoded data?

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9 points

Wondering the same

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It’s my logo :)

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