-31 points

This is blatant propaganda and completely untrue.

permalink
report
reply
1 point
Removed by mod
permalink
report
parent
reply
-13 points

Exactly, Don’t say that on lemmy or reddit though. If you make any corrections to anything anti-capitalist you are a terrible person.

It’s kind of amazing how every shits on the “free market” when they absolutely refuse to allow it to work

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

We allow it to work though. And we regularly see what a terrible idea that usually is.

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points
*

Are you Reagan’s ghost or Thatcher’s?

Either way, go back to the 14th circle of hell.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-5 points

Neither. You don’t have to be a conservative to observe trains running on time, you just have to be observant and then be honest about what you observed. Likewise for every major road within 50 miles of me being free of potholes.There are plenty of valid things to complain about in the United States, you don’t have to make shit up.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Where the fuck do you live where a fifty mile radius is pothole-free? I’m ten minutes from poorly maintained Interstate Freeway, State Highway, and major local thoroughfares connecting transit hubs. The most important roads in the wealthiest part of the region (Seattle Metroplitan Area) are in disrepair, our bridges are falling apart, so are our ferries (surprisingly important infrastructure). We have two passenger train lines, one shares space with (and makes way for) every ounce of rail freight and the other is generally poorly managed (their brand-new escalators break constantly, among other issues) “On time” is not usually an accurate description of the service.

permalink
report
parent
reply
19 points

Someone exaggerating on the Internet?

Unpossible

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Inunpossible’nt*

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Come, visit Germany. Preferrably by train, and observe how good of an idea privatizing such things is.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points
*

I’m not sure what your message is. Are you saying that they’ve privatized those things now and they don’t work well, and would serve as a warning? Public transportation and infrastructure isn’t privatized in the United States. It’s taken care of by the government using tax dollars.

permalink
report
parent
reply
117 points

“Lol China will never catch up”

Outsources everything to China

China catches up

“Yeah well China will never become eco friendly”

China starts producing cheap eco friendly tech

Yellen: “Hurr durr muh overproduction will hurt the oil compa- i mean global market”

permalink
report
reply
33 points

“We already benefited from slaves so now slavery is bad, We dictate what civilized world means”

and

“We polluted the whole world for our industrial revolution, so now pollution is bad, we protec environment”

Outsources everything to a country without any labor rights or environmental protection

feels good man

also

“We enabled our big tech to create a global surveillance system and international monopolies”

Tiktok bad because it reports to CCP

Pointing out any of the hypocrisy means you’re a tankie (i’m yet to know what it actually means).

As far as I’m concerened, one does bad things without any filter, one uses the media, tech and its hegemony to project a positive image while severely downplaying and ignoring their atrocities.

Sooner or later, China is also going to learn to do the same with their big tech and media companies.

permalink
report
parent
reply
16 points

If it helps, probably not

A tankie is a kind of communist that is disliked by other communists. So you know if someone calls you a tankie, that person is a leftie and they agree you’re a leftie too, but the bad ones.

It comes from the invasion of socialist Hungary (?? Not really sure here) by Soviet tanks. There were people for and against it. The ones in Hungary defending Soviet point of view, that is, supporting tanks imposing social order, were called tankies.

permalink
report
parent
reply
31 points

What you said is all true. And most of the tankies I’ve come across seem to hold their beliefs mostly due to learning about and needing to confront the hypocrisy that you’ve outlined.

But in my opinion, they come to some strange conclusions. For example, it seems to me that many hold Russia and especially China up as some kind of shining beacon of hope, and miss that they are just as bad as the US, if not worse, just in different ways.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

I think it’s out of the false dichotomy of The West vs China and Russia. While in fact there is no dichotomy, every large political actor will only try to bend everyone else, not benefit humanity.

It’s not a capture the flag, it’s more of a death match, but many think they are too big to fail, have too much upper hand, or can outsmart others. Too bad the people are the losing side

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

what do you mean sooner or later? China’s spreading their influence now, their hegemony has been growing to rival the West through their investments in Africa and South America. They started decades ago, and really caught up during the Trump presidency.

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

Western Economists: What China really needs to do is stop investing in production, promote domestic consumption, and start spending foreign reserves on goods rather than bonds.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

Because China can outsource everything to India, while India can outsource everything to Africa…

makes me wonder what would happen when we run out of cheap labour in third world countries

but I guess, no one will ever let all the (other) countries develop enough for that to happen 😠

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

So it is pyramid scheme

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

The impending climate/water crisis is likely to make us find out! As conditions worsen it will effect “third world countries” the most (and highly dense countries), forcing an unprecedented wave of immigration. Our systems aren’t built for this, and we seem fully unwilling to change anything until it is actively on fire.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

China closed the gap for sure, but they haven’t caught up yet. Their demographic issues and deflation over the next decade is likely to hinder their progress in closing that gap

Not that I oppose other economic systems from prospering, just I don’t think it’s accurate to say they’ve caught up. For example, they still can’t manufacture chips at as small a scale as US companies can. That’s a very significant manufacturing component to be dependent on

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

What “other economic system?” China is a state capitalist command economy – They can call themselves “communist” all they want but at this point it is in name only and we all know it. They left behind any shreds of actual communist philosophy in the late 1970’s and conveniently kept only the Soviet style authoritarian parts.

The entire country is run as one giant business for the purposes of profit, and although major swathes of their business sector may be state-owned, they’re still driven by a capitalist profit motive, and they keep said profits for themselves to no benefit of the teeming masses who make up everyone who isn’t already at the top.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

I’m anti authoritarian, but I meant centralized vs decentralized economic planning. I agree though, communism is state capitalism

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

I work for a company that manufactures environmental testing chambers. We also have operations in China, but they mostly sell to the Asian and European markets. They make one specific model at that plant, 4-5 units at a time, very rapidly, but they can’t do custom work, like the plant I work at in the US does. We specifically make chambers that are outfitted to meet specific needs of our customers, our Chinese plant can’t do that yet.

permalink
report
parent
reply
75 points

Because Karl Marx said socialism is good, and they determined Karl Marx is bad, therefore socialism must be bad.

permalink
report
reply
46 points

Other way. They determined socialism is bad first since that gives a real alternative to capitalism.

permalink
report
parent
reply
47 points

It doesn’t need to be an alternative. It’s a really effective way to regulate capitalism by standardizing and socializing private industries like education, police, fire, roads, internet access, healthcare, etc.

permalink
report
parent
reply
13 points

I would argue that the alternative is important even if you don’t do it. The USSR increased standards of living in capitalist powers by leaps and bounds, just by standing, even only on paper, for an alternative.

permalink
report
parent
reply
20 points
*

Socialism is the workers collectively owning the means of production, everything else is just details. (Well, the anti-heirarchy bit is important too, especially to keep the means from falling into something that isn’t just capitalism with extra steps, but complicated)

It is innately opposed to capitalism as a result. What it isn’t innately opposed to is a market economy.

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

Keep in mind that it’s actually really bloody hard to get potholes filled as a “private entitty” the only real option you have is to literally throw money at the “Local Government” whatever it might be called for you then tell them the flow will stop unless they do it.

Free market can’t do shit unless it’s actually free to do stuff like this.

permalink
report
reply

4 people are richer than God

Wait… Doesn’t the church give all their donation money to that guy? Surely God is still richer. /s

permalink
report
reply
18 points

“He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He’s all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can’t handle money!”

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

There really is a Carlin quote for everything

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

I mean the guy canonically can’t resist taking a bet on wether torturing a guy will make him lose faith, might be a bit of a gambling problem.

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points

God spends the money through his disciples, child.

Now fucking tithe.

permalink
report
parent
reply
19 points

I donate 10% of my income to the poor.

I am the poor.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

The more you give, the more you qualify to receive!

We take tithe now, charity comes next weekTM

permalink
report
parent
reply

tumblr

!tumblr@lemmy.world

Create post

Welcome to /c/tumblr, a place for all your tumblr screenshots and news.

Our Rules:

  1. Keep it civil. We’re all people here. Be respectful to one another.

  2. No sexism, racism, homophobia, transphobia or any other flavor of bigotry. I should not need to explain this one.

  3. Must be tumblr related. This one is kind of a given.

  4. Try not to repost anything posted within the past month. Beyond that, go for it. Not everyone is on every site all the time.

  5. No unnecessary negativity. Just because you don’t like a thing doesn’t mean that you need to spend the entire comment section complaining about said thing. Just downvote and move on.


Sister Communities:

Community stats

  • 3.1K

    Monthly active users

  • 603

    Posts

  • 15K

    Comments

Community moderators