127 points

Or even like modern wifi. I saw a vacuum with wifi capabilities. Do I really need to check my vacuum battery level from my phone?

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If you don’t pay your monthly vacuum fee, Hoover will turn it off remotely.

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42 points

Unlock more power for an extra $4.99/month*

*warranty period reduced by 1 week per use of MaxPower mode

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3 points

Hahaha

There’s a real life example of this somewhere right?

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10 points

Time to wrap my vacuum in tin foil

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43 points

I saw a Bluetooth toothbrush that send reports to your phone on how good you brushed your teeth, like wtf?!

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28 points

It also send reports to they corporate overlords. Most probably anyway.

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16 points

Oh I’m sure your health insurance would love to know the condition of your teeth to increase your rates.

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10 points

EXACTLY! Hubby has one of those, that function got old pretty quickly.

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8 points

TBH I use that to make sure my kids brush their teeth before the electronics get Internet in the morning.

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3 points

Or to make sure they learn hacking skills. Win or win!

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2 points

Your internet is solar powered?

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4 points

My home assistant picked up my toothbrush, forgot it had that feature*

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1 point

It does seem silly to me as well, but is it really any different from people who want personal data for their sleep habits or exercise habits?

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10 points

Saw a “smart” steam ironing board.

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13 points

I’ll call it smart when it will iron my shirts!

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1 point

There are a few that do that but feel gimmicky. It looks like the upper half of a dummy and throws vapor to wrinkle out the shirt.

Yes, I’ve considered it in the past.

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6 points

Adding Bluetooth to a vacuum cleaner does make it suck more.

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5 points

Well, this is something that I actually used. I have a robo vacuum. I was preparing my home for some guests once, when I saw that the vacuum wasn’t charged fully (because it was mispositioned on its base). I put it to the right spot, let it charge for half an hour, started it and left to buy groceries.
At the store, I checked the app where I have my apartment mapped by the vacuum that shows its route and cleaning progress. And I saw that with the current charge, it will have to go back, charge and continue. So I set it from “max” power to “normal”, to let it at least finish the job.
It is a cool and useful thing

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2 points

This was not an automated model of vacuum. Connection features for automated models makes sense.

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3 points

Ah, ok, then yes. If it’s just an indicator on the vacuum against “indicator in an app + register + give us all your data+ “buy vacuum 2.0” notifications”, then fuck them

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1 point

Yes? Maybe the battery was left uncharged, or used up, so you’re waiting to do more cleaning. Why shouldn’t you be able to check?

I have an automation in my Home Assistant setup to notify me when batteries need to be replaced or charged. Currently it’s only for the smart devices in that deployment, but yes. I want my home automation to keep track of all batteries, so I can see status at a glance and be reminded if one needs attention

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Or i could just plug my vacuum in when I’m done with it.

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AI isn’t a product for consumers, its a product for investors. If somewhere down the line a consumer benefits in some way, that’s just a side effect.

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8 points

Think about the ways that information tech has revolutionized our ability to do things. It’s allowed us to do math, produce and distribute news and entertainment, communicate with each other, make our voices heard, organize movements, and create and access pornography at rates and in ways that humanity could only have dreamed of only a few decades ago.

Now consider that AI is first and foremost a technology predicated on reappropriating and stealing credit for another person’s legitimate creative work.

Now imagine how much of humanity’s history has had that kind of exploitation at the forefront of its worst moments, and consider what might lie ahead with those kind of impulses being given the rocket fuel of advanced information technology.

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79 points

This is so spot on. I use AI all the time, but the hype and “we should AI all the things” is ridiculous.

I blame it on bullshit jobs. Too many people have to come up with weekly nonsense busywork tasks just to justify themselves. Also the usual FOMO. “Guys, we can’t fall behind the competition on this!”

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36 points

Yep. I have middle management above me gleefully cheering the fact that ChatGPT can write their reports for them now. Well guess what, it can write those reports for me, the actual person doing the real work, and you are now redundant.

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15 points

As a person with a useless boss who does almost nothing and (of course) gets paid more than me, I like this take! Let AI report on workers and watch productivity (and profits) soar!

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8 points

The less ya do, the more they pays ya. It’s so dumb.

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1 point

As an architect whose job it is to persuade useless bosses to do things the right way or to prioritize their teams to, I love this idea. Let AI take over boss work. They would be so much easier to work with

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8 points

Like many people, I use it like we used to use Google. Because Google (and most other search engines) suck now, thanks to all the SEO spam out there. My job requires me to be a “jack of all trades” (I am a duct taper with a bullshit job in David Graeber parlance). I have to cover myriad technical things. I usually know the high level way to do things, but I frequently need help with the specifics (rusty on the syntax, etc), so I use the free ChatGPT for that kind of thing. it’s been extremely helpful. I was also the first person to bring it to the attention of my boss ages ago when it first came onto the scene.

Rather predictably, my boss now acts like he discovered (borderline invented it) and is always nagging everyone to use it to get their work done faster.

AI has already put some people out of work and will continue to be disruptive. There will be a lot more layoffs coming, is my guess. And it doesn’t really matter if the AI is good or not. If the C-Suite thinks they can save money and get rid of “lazy workers” they will absolutely 100% do it. We’ve seen over and over again how customer service and product quality hardly even matter any more.

I appreciate your take on it: replace the useless middle manager whip-cracker types. Hopefully we see a lot of that…

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10 points

My company did a big old round of AI layoffs and now it’s barely functional at all because it got rid of a bunch of people actually doing things and kept all of the loud idiots.

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I work for a fairly big IT company. They’re currently going nuts about how generative AI will change everything for us and have been for the last year or so. I’m yet to see it actually be used by anyone.

I imagine the new Microsoft Office copilot integration will be used only slightly more than Clippy was back in the day.

But hey, maybe I’m just an old man shouting at the AI powered cloud.

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Copilot is often a brilliant autocomplete, that alone will save workers plenty of time if they learn to use it.

I know that as a programmer, I spend a large percentage of my time simply transcribing correct syntax of whatever’s in my brain to the editor, and Copilot speeds that process up dramatically.

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19 points

problem is when the autocomplete just starts hallucinating things and you don’t catch it

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30 points

If you blindly accept autocompletion suggestions then you deserve what you get. AIs aren’t gods.

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2 points

you don’t catch it

That’s on you then. Copilot even very explicitly notes that the ai can be wrong, right in the chat. If you just blindly accept anything not confirmed by you, it’s not the tool’s fault.

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9 points

I feel like the process of getting the code right is how I learn. If I just type vague garbage in and the AI tool fixes it up, I’m not really going to learn much.

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6 points

Autocomplete doesn’t write algorithms for you, it writes syntax. (Unless the algorithm is trivial.) You could use your brain to learn just the important stuff and let the AI handle the minutiae.

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Where “learn” means “memorize arbitrary syntax that differs across languages”? Anyone trying to use copilot as a substitute for learning concepts is going to have a bad time.

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AI can help you learn by chiming in about things you didn’t know you didn’t know. I wanted to compare images to ones in a dataset, that may have been resized, and the solution the AI gave me involved blurring the images slightly before comparing them. I pointed out that this seemed wrong, because won’t slight differences in the files produce different hashes? But the response was that the algorithm being used was perceptual hashing, which only needs images to be approximately the same to produce the same hash, and the blurring was to make this work better. Since I know AI often makes shit up I of course did more research and tested that the code worked as described, but it did and was all true.

If I hadn’t been using AI, I would have wasted a bunch of time trying to get the images pixel perfect identical to work with a naive hashing algorithm because I wasn’t aware of a better way to do it. Since I used AI, I learned more about what solutions are available, more quickly. I find that this happens pretty often; there’s actually a lot that it knows that I wasn’t aware of or had a false impression of. I can see how someone might use AI as a programming crutch and fail to pay attention or learn what the code does, but it can also be used in a way that helps you learn.

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I use AI a lot as well as a SWE. The other day I used it to remove an old feature flag from our server graphs along with all now-deprecated code in one click. Unit tests still passed after, saved me like 1-2 hours of manual work.

It’s good for boilerplate and refactors more than anything

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AI bad tho!!!

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19 points

A friend of mine works in marketing (think “websites for small companies”). They use an LLM to turn product descriptions into early draft advertising copy and then refine from there. Apparently that saves them some time.

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19 points

It saves a ton of time. I’ve worked with clients before and I’ll put a lorem ipsum as a placeholder for text they’re supposed to provide. Then the client will send me a note saying there’s a mistake and the text needs to be in English. If the text is almost close enough to what the client wants, they might actually read it and send edits if you’re lucky.

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I’ve actually pushed products out with lorem ipsum on it because the client never provided us with copy. As you say they seem to think that the copy is in there, but just in some language they can’t understand. I don’t know how they can possibly think that since they’ve never sent any, but if they were bright they wouldn’t work in marketing.

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I’m a developer with about 15 years of experience. I got into my company’s copilot beta program.

Now maybe you are some magical programmer that knows everything and doesn’t need stack overflow, but for me it’s all but completely replaced it. Instead of hunting around for a general answer and then applying it to my code, I can ask very explicitly how to do that one thing in my code, and it will auto generate some code that is usually like 90% correct.

Same thing when I’m adding a class that follows a typical pattern elsewhere in my code…well it will auto generate the entire class, again with like 90% of it being correct. (What I don’t understand is how often it makes up enum values, when it clearly has some context about the rest of my code) I’m often shocked as to how well it knew what I was about to do.

I have an exception thats not quite clear to me? Well just paste it into the copilot chat and it gives a very good plain English explanation of what happened and generally a decent idea of where to look.

And this is a technology in it’s infancy. It’s only been released for a little over a year, and it has definitely improved my productivity. Based on how I’ve found it useful, it will be especially good for junior devs.

I know it’s in, especially on lemmy, to shit on AI, but I would highly recommend any dev get comfortable with it because it is going to change how things are done and it’s, even in its current form, a pretty useful tool.

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It’s in to shit on AI because it’s ridiculously overhyped, and people naturally want to push back on that. Pretty much everyone agrees it’ll be useful, just not replace all the jobs useful.

And a chunk of the jobs it will replace were on their way out the door anyway. There are already plenty of fast food places with kiosks to order, and they haven’t replaced any specific person, just a small function of one job.

I expect it’ll be useful on the order of magnitude of Google Search, not revolutionary on the scale of the internet. And I think that’s a reasonable amount of credit.

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The problem with GenAI is the same as any system. Garbage in equals garbage out. Couple it with no tuning and it’s a disaster waiting to happen. Good GenAI can exist, but you need some serious data science and time to tune it. Right now that puts the cost outside of the “do it by hand” realm (and by quite a bit). LLMs are useful given that they’ve been trained on general human writing patterns, but for a company to be able to replace their functions with highly specific tasks they need to develop and push their own data sets and training which they don’t want to spend the money on.

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7 points

It will take the market by storm, just like NFT with bored apes.

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7 points

I’d love a boosted Clippy powered by AI! It would have incredible animations while sitting there in corner doing nothing!

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I’m yet to see it actually be used by anyone.

None of your programmers are using genAI to prototype, analyze errors or debug faster? Either they are seriously missing out or you’re not following.
I think the “AI will revolutionize everything” hype is stupid, but I definitely get a lot of added productivity when coding with it, especially when discovering APIs. I do have to double-check, but overall I’m definitely faster than before. I think it’s good at reducing the mental load of starting a new task too, because you can ask for some ideas and pick what you like from it.

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Mine aren’t. Because it has been mandated by the execs not to because there is a potential security risk in leaking our code to AI servers.

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8 points

This. I am stunned to read how many devs are allowed to use a third party tool to send proprietary code to.

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My company has an agreement with a genAI provider so the data won’t be leaked, we have an internal website, it’s not the public one. We can also add our own data to the model to get results relevant to the company’s knowledge.

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I was watching this morning’s WAN podcast (linustechtips) and they had an interview with Jim Keller talking mostly about AI.

The portions about AI felt like he was living in an alternate universe, predicting AI will be used literally everywhere.

My bullshit-o-meter hit the stars but comments on the video seem positive 🤔

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I think it massively depends on what your job is. I know quite a lot of people at work use AI to to draft out documents, it’s a good way to get started. I also suspect that quite a lot of documents are 100% AI since we have a lot of stuff that we write but no one ever reads, so what’s the point in putting effort in?

I tried to use it to write some documentation for various processes at work but the AI doesn’t know about our processes and I couldn’t figure out a way to tell it about our processes and so it either missed steps or just made stuff up so for me it’s not really useful.

So it works as long as you don’t need anything too custom. But then we have engineers that go out to businesses and presumably they don’t use AI for anything because there’s nothing it can do that would be useful for them.

So right there in one business you have three groups of people, people who use AI a lot, people who’ve tried to use AI and don’t find it useful, and people who basically have no use for AI.

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I have one guy using AI to generate a status report by compiling all his report’ statuses!

I’m hoping to be one of the people to benefit, if Security would approve AI. As a DevOps guy, I’m continually jumping among programming and scripting languages and it sometimes takes a bit to change context. If I’m still in Python mode, why shouldn’t I get a jump by AI translating to Java, or Groovy, or Go, or PowerShell, or whatever flavor of shell script? As the new JavaScript “expert” at my company, why can’t I continue avoiding Learning JavaScript?

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55 points

So you are saying that AI today is like Bluetooth today

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I use Bluetooth all the time for speakers and headsets, also the PlayStation 3 controller was Bluetooth, so would that not mean AI will be a top of the line tool in 2 years? I personally don’t use it for anything at the moment, but in 2003 Plantronics released Bluetooth headsets for corporate environments (IP phones usually still used to this day).

Seems like more of a we aren’t sure where this tool is most useful yet, but it will be used by many people around us.

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15 points

That’s very fair. I don’t like how unpredictable Bluetooth is when you have multiple peripherals and multiple hosts paired to eachother and all within range of eachother.

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2 points

Say what you want about bluetooth, but I’m amazed by the battery life of those devices

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2 points

Having two pairs of AirBudz, one AirBudz pro, and an Anker speaker attached via BT to my phone and all of them function exactly when I want perfectly… Bluetooth works amazingly.

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