The former president made multiple chilling warnings during an interview with Time magazine.
Donald Trump hasn’t quite let go of the possibility of utilizing mob violence if he loses the next election.
In a sprawling interview for Time magazine, Trump hinted that leveraging political violence to achieve his end goals was still on the table.
“If we don’t win, you know, it depends,” he told Time. “It always depends on the fairness of the election.”
And from Trump’s perspective, that’s winning rhetoric. According to him, his incendiary comments supporting a mob mentality, his early warnings of forthcoming abuses of power, and his threats to be a dictator on “day one” are only inching him closer to the White House. “I think a lot of people like it,” Trump told Time.
If the FEC had any fucking teeth they’d jail and disqualify him for that statement alone.
They have teeth. But half of the people who decide whether or not they pursue charges against someone are republican appointees.
So, you know… teeth, but corrupted leadership.
Yes and no. I can’t speak to the particulars of this situation but differences in means matter even if they currently produce the same outcome. A toothless dog and a dog in a muzzle are different in important ways.
I don’t really disagree in present circumstances.
But I feel it’s necessary to characterize it correctly. Characterizing the FEC as a whole to be deficient when it’s a few bad actors temporarily at the head of the FEC could be used as justification by other bad actors or well-intentioned but misled people to undermine the FEC - which would make it deficient should the leadership issues be corrected.
Sort of the game that conservatives play with government services. Cut the funding until the service is flagging, then use that as justification to either further cut the budget or reduce the scope of the service until the service is no longer a real government service.
Can’t let ourselves buy into that.
January 6th was a failed coup attempt.
How is saying you’ll retry your failed coup attempt if you don’t get your way something were allowing a presidential candidate to do?
Because he “tells it like it is” or something. Idk. The kind of people still falling for his grift are too shameless to ever admit that they ever fell for his grift, so they’re doubling down, succumbing to the sunk cost fallacy. They just stay in their echo chambers and saturate their awareness with weird culture war shit and then never hear about what’s actually happening. Half of them probably don’t even know that their guy is a defendant in criminal court this week. Willfully ignorant.
No I’m fine with uneducated masses eating it up.
I’m not okay with judges pulling out their dentures to slobber on trumps balls over matters that threaten the whole country instead of figuratively castrating him the moment he says shit like this.
Agreed. But conservatives have learned over the past 10-20 years that they can more or less just do whatever they want without consequence because 1/3 of the people will fight to the death for whatever they do or say, 1/3 is completely unaware and uninterested in politics and current events, and the final 1/3 is people like us who want consequences but we’re too busy to do anything ourselves because survival is hard enough these days. There are a hundred things worthy of outrage and organized demonstration too, so which cause do we dedicate our summer to trying to fix? The right has an easier time because they just say “things used to be better” and then have one event where people complain about change. Pretty much everybody can identify with being pissed off that something used to be better until they changed it, and for some reason that’s strong enough to get some pretty average people to sit at the table with Nazis. There’s much more nuance and thoughtfulness on the left, so it’s much harder to get unity.
Because conservatives can grow and maintain a reliable base to keep them in power, they feel no need to even pretend to be decent most of the time. They can just fervently choose their own selfish goals over what the Constitution or other rules and laws demand. I don’t think it’s hyperbole to say that we’re rapidly approaching the era of post-democracy America. Some would say we’ve been there for decades already, but I think we’re in for some dictatorial, executions-in-the-streets type of shit if Biden loses. So conservatives in power who like trump or even suspect that he may win or get into power otherwise have to weigh doing the right thing which could hurt their party and draw targets on their backs vs low/no consequence siding with trump.
"If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”—David Frum
Because “not trying to overthrow the government due to losing an election” isn’t listed in the Constitution as a requirement to be elected. One would think that’s a pretty major oversight.
Except it literally is explicitly written into the constitution. 14th Amendment, Section 3.
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
The major oversight is our massively and blatantly corrupt Supreme Court.
I have strong doubts. The people most likely to “Jan 6” did. A number of them, particularly the mid-level leaders, that actually organized things, are in prison. They have not turned out in numbers since they started getting arrested.
They got light sentences. And let’s face it, the people that are going to organize yet another insurrection are going to be duped by the same logic that Trump will pardon them or that their acts are justified.
Trump is threatening our democracy. Again.
He’s saying that if he doesn’t win, there’s going to be another insurrection.
The sad reality is that over the last four years, fascist states have put laws into place that make it legal to overturn elections for little to no reason. No oversight.
He won’t need an insurrection because he has willing accomplices.
They got light sentences.
False. Some of the ones that took a plea deal got light sentences. They also can no longer vote.
The ones that didn’t take plea deals got sentences completely in line with the Federal Sentencing guidelines, because that is how our modern Federal courts work.
67% of sentences were below the federal guidelines as were 86% of felony sentences.
We’re talking about domestic terrorists who tried to overthrow the government.
I don’t think voting was a concern when they committed to the coop. Hopefully they are not merely on house arrest after the next election
Per the new rules in my state, all my history books have had the pages from 1924 to 1957 torn out. So I’m assuming this part of history was just woke and soy and therefore unimportant.
Oh man, you didn’t get to read about how our good Christian American soldiers kicked the ass of the Godless Communist Germany in WW2?
But that won’t take them any closer to toppling the government. Jan. 6 could only happen because Trump actively prevented the police from doing their jobs. That won’t happen under Biden.
Fucken Bolsonaro did the same shit and it’s looking like he’s actually gonna get prosecuted. Real shame the US government isn’t up to the high standards set by Brazil, but maybe we’ll get there someday!
How many more Babbits will trump create when he can’t tell the capital police to stand down? Or even, how many of his idiot followers are even going to show up when they got fucked and abandoned last time?
You’re a pathetic weakling Donnie, go sit the fuck down and pout to a judge.
The only story there is they got so far in before any of them were shot. She was crawling through the final barrier between the mob of insurrectionists and members of Congress and still given plenty of opportunity to cut that out.
Insurrectionists were basically allowed to run free smearing feces on the walls until there was no other option to prevent them from murdering representatives. If all cops would show that much restraint that would be rad as fuck. I guess not every protest has their off-duty buddies in the crowd, though.
The idiots weren’t even smart about it. They had access to congress offices, at the very least they should have been grabbing every scrap of intel they could lay hands on and posting it online so we could see what our representatives are really up to. If you’re going to commit treason at least make it valuable.
