251 points

Hollonbeck admitted to his actions and said he was “afraid for his daughter’s safety and didn’t know who she was with or that she had left without permission,” according to the report.

Oh, well if he didn’t know then it’s perfectly understandable to point a gun at an underpaid taxi driver.

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111 points

I thought pointing guns at people who you thought wanted to sleep with your daughter was something out of bad jokes and old movies. Apparently not.

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22 points

Oh, you sweet summer child…

https://youtu.be/4ABRz_epvic

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5 points
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I genuinely can’t tell if this is satire or not

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I had a old Co worker who told this story… When he was a teenager/early 20s he had several guns and was a member of the gun range. One day he went shooting and came home. Like a good gun owner started cleaning his guns when there was a knock on the door.

He held the shot gun he was holding over his should, several more from pistols to rifles on the table and answered the door.

Unknown to him his younger sister had a first date that night, and he was here to pick her up. Needless to say she was home before curfew and was a complete gentleman to her.

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6 points

boomer ass story, bud.

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32 points

This is why it’s so important to have AR’s at arms reach, who knows how this situation could have ended up had he not been armed.

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11 points

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165 points

Going to guess he considers himself a responsible gun owner.

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109 points

Bigfoot, Mothman and the Responsible Gun Owner are my favorite mythological creatures of American folklore.

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I actually am a responsible gun owner. I keep my guns locked up when I’m not going to the range, and I store the ammo separately. When I clean my guns, I always check the chamber to verify it is empty. I have been shooting guns since I was about 8, and I’ve never had a negligent discharge and never will with how anal I am about gun safety.

The only reason I don’t carry is that I don’t have the money for it right now, and I don’t feel I am a good enough shot. I am only confident at 20 to 25 feet.

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Well that’s good, but even if we are generous and say half the ~80 million gun owners in the US, are as responsible with their weapons as you are; that leaves a fuckton of gun wielders who are not responsible.
I am not outright anti-gun, but it makes no sense to me it took two tests and several weeks of waiting, to get a driver’s license; and if I want to do e.g. more than basic electrical or plumbing changes in my home, I should get a permit and there will be an inspection. Yet I could waltz into a store, buy guns like I was a personal army, and at worst I would have to wait a couple days to pick them up. As far as I know, there are 0 requirements or inspections for if you have a gun safe; let alone any form of test or licensing of if you are just barely competent and safe weilding them.

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0 points

Provides evidence for responsible gun ownership

Lemmy: Time to downvote this person for neutralizing one of my arguments.

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2 points

There’s definitely self-selection happening. A paranoid individual is more likely to feel the need to buy a gun. A person who wants control over others is more likely to feel that same need. A person with malicious or suicidal intent is more likely to feel that same need.

Meanwhile, it’s entirely a coin-toss on whether a sane, responsible individual actually feels like they can/should own a firearm. I think as we get into worse civil unrest, we will inevitably see more individuals feel that they have no choice but to arm themselves, but for the time being it’s going to the less savory folks rushing to buy.

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-4 points

I’m more of a Jersey Devil fan myself, could do without the gun owners and bootleg yetis.

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-21 points

Every gun owner is a responsible gun owner until they aren’t.

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61 points

No, no they aren’t. Some people were never responsible gun owners to begin with, regardless of anyone’s beliefs around guns.

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23 points

Most people I know I wouldn’t even trust with a grilled cheese sandwich.

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16 points

Let me revise it then- Every responsible gun owner is a responsible gun owner until they aren’t.

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4 points

Well, yeah that’s kinda the point isn’t it

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139 points

What a dumbass… and as bad as this is… it gets WORSE:

https://www.wesh.com/article/milton-florida-dad-gun-uber/60744321

“That vehicle was completely unmarked. In my mind, this was not good, right?" Dr. Sean Hollonbeck told WEAR News.

I can’t say I’ve seen an unmarked Uber or Lyft car, generally they’re very good about displaying one or both signs, so doubting this statement from the jump.

“I served 31 years, I was an Army doctor, I trained as a Navy flight surgeon, I served with the 7th Special Forces Group, I served with the 160th," Hollonbeck said. "I served six tours.”

Then you should know better.

https://weartv.com/news/local/milton-dad-accomplished-veteran-tells-his-side-in-uber-driver-gun-case-involving-daughter

"And everybody knows what’s going on in this country with fentanyl and child trafficking and rape. Terrible stuff.”

If they were engaging in child trafficking, why would they be bringing her BACK to your house? 🤔

“In this country you’re innocent until proven guilty,"

You mean, like the Uber driver?

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48 points

I didn’t even know marked ubers were an expectation. Here you’d be hard pressed to find a marked one.

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I just went to Vegas and probably took 30 ubers while there. Almost none had signs. One had a police license plate though lol

I think there’s a lot more to this guy’s relationship with his daughter. She had other friends at the house and hadn’t told him she’d left. She also went inside and left during this confrontation. Sounds like a very strained relationship for many reasons - eg I wonder how many times he’s threatened her with a gun etc

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Massive disclaimer before this whole paragraph that this person’s actions are abhorrent and totally unjustified. Just want to provide some perspective on a single relatively minor point.

Regarding the unmarked uber it’s actually more common than you’d think. In some cities uber will send you a little decal you’re meant to put in the windshield of your car, but it could easily be missed and some drivers who maybe only drive a couple times a month may choose to not have that on display everywhere they go. Uber actually states that you’re only supposed to have it installed while you’re active in the app, but I don’t think it would last very long if you peeled it off and stored it in your car or on a shelf every time you needed to go to the grocery store let alone if you drive for personal reasons on a daily basis. Personally when I was driving uber with that decal provided I chose to just keep it on my windshield, but there’s no enforcement of that policy unless people scanned all your windows before getting in and decided that your license plate matching the app wasn’t enough evidence to get in your car.

In the previous city I drove uber (albeit it was only around 80k population) they didn’t provide any sort of markings. Plenty of uber drivers had signs, but those light up signs in particular are actually sold by third parties and as a result you need to pay out of pocket to get one. While I did choose to invest in a phone mount which is about the same price, I refused on principle to use my own money to buy signage.

So in short I can assure you that there are plenty of uber drivers in unmarked cars, either due to signage which doesn’t meet drivers’ needs or a lack of any signage provided by uber.

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16 points

For the sticker thing, we had this solution waaaaaaay back in the day when I was in college…

Parking sticker had to be displayed, but if you didn’t want to permanently mount it to one car, you did this:

Take the lid off a casette tape case, put the sticker on that, put the lid on the dashboard. Take it with you when you don’t need it.

I guess nowadays you’d use the lid off a CD case. :)

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16 points

What’s a CD?

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7 points

You’d need a 45 sleeve for this sticker haha. That’s a clever idea though. I’ll probably use that if I ever need a parking sticker again.

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3 points

In Europe, some cars have a plastic clip on the windshield, where you can put stuff in it(parking permits, etc).

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11 points

The more he describes himself, the more cocaine I think fueled his actions. That’s like 4 lines of self aggrandizement there, maybe a bump after.

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11 points

When your kid is so ugly even human traffickers send it back…

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2 points

I always joked that I wasn’t worried about my son being kidnapped because the kidnappers would send him back within a day.

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8 points

What do you want to bet in all these stories the victim isn’t white? Lol

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3 points

Someone who did this is a medical doctor. I mean he lives in Florida but still, you would think he’d at least ask first.

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119 points

Its a strange kidnaper that drops their victim off at home.

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30 points

He crossed the line from protector to posseser is my wild guess. What a weirdo.

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2 points

Naper.

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103 points

No wonder the daughter leaves the house without his permission or knowledge. Hes a fucking lunatic.

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Probably not an amazing parent if his 13yo daughter is sneaking out to do God knows what. I get being upset, but I’m sure you could talk to the Uber driver or God forbid your own daughter to figure out where she’s been.

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