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you know, good for her, i guess, but i absolutely fucking hate that they just paint this picture of her like a normal, well adjusted person who happened to get involved in some Weird Shit, because she has to have ignored or dismissed a LOT of red flags to get to where she was.

i’m glad she finally did her due diligence, but i don’t think she deserves a glossy write up about how she did a little oopsy fucky wucky that may have made many children’s lives measurably worse.

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you know, good for her, i guess, but i absolutely fucking hate that they just paint this picture of her like a normal, well adjusted person who happened to get involved in some Weird Shit, because she has to have ignored or dismissed a LOT of red flags to get to where she was.

I have to mildly disagree here. Yes, some (I’ll even go so far as to say the majority) of the blame falls on her for being willfully blind for so long, but there’s also the fact that many of her colleagues simply tried shielding her from the information. Plus, in any case like this, you often don’t know the true reality of the situation until you roll up your sleeves and start digging in yourself.

But I’m willing to give her a lot of credit. She was willing to have her beliefs challenged, she was willing to look at everything objectively, and she didn’t follow her colleagues’ lead in ignoring the evidence for their own political benefit because the facts didn’t jive with their personal worldview (and apparently being willing to state as much, if only to her). That itself is a rarity in society today, where the only answer to extremism is more extremism, doubling down instead of compromising, and treating any attempt at admitting the other side may have a point as being a traitor to the cause. This holds especially true in the GOP, and even more so in places like Texas.

And in an area like that, I’d much rather have someone who at least seems to be willing to be objective and accept reality vs. yet another crackpot who wants a list of books banned because some of the words contain the letters G, A, and Y.

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Also you have to allow people a way out. If you say they can never come back to reality, then they won’t try.

It takes a lot to leave your social group, even if that social group is based on rage, lies, and bullshit. It’s not entirely different from ex-Mormons or people leaving a cult.

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Now is she actually gonna do something about her colleagues misleading her or continue being complicit due to willful ignorance?

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Belief is a word for children. Adults either know or dont know. If you see an adult using the word believe youre staring at a red flag.

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she has to have ignored or dismissed a LOT of red flags to get to where she was

Every news she watched told her a certain picture of how the world was.

Every person she talked to swears to her that the world is a certain way (and, if she starts questioning, they get real suspicious of her and maybe might ostracize her from their social circle).

It would be weird if she had arrived at the truth on her own before this point. And usually, it actually takes a lot more than just reading over the primary sources and realizing that they don’t say what the news and all her friends said they say, before someone realizes the truth.

She didn’t ignore any red flags, because the red flags exist in reality. You’re well acquainted with some information about reality that she’s not privy to, and so in your mind it was easy to spot. For her, her world picture is carefully managed and curated, and the instant that she saw some information that it wasn’t the way she’d been told, she realized the truth, told everyone (alienating more or less 100% of her former allies), and started working to try to put it right.

Don’t hedge your support for her, would be my way of looking at it. She wants to stop the Nazis. Okay, sounds great. I wouldn’t kick Eisenhower out of the wagon train because he’s a Republican, while the shooting against the ones who want to kill you and me and also her, is still going on.

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Don’t let a thirst for justice get in the way of finding allies. It’s about the school districts and their future, not the individuals trying to fuck them up with religious indoctrination.

So, it’s not “good for her” as much as “good for those kids”. And what she deserves or not is less important than those kids futures of being brainwashed or not. She’s just one person, and punishing her would accomplish nothing helpful, you’re not going to scare off her old friends that way or anything.

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She’s just one person, and punishing her would accomplish nothing helpful, you’re not going to scare off her old friends that way or anything.

They didn’t say anything about punishing her, just that she shouldn’t be applauded for switching from an asshole to less of an asshole.

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9 points

Personally I think we should always applaud learning if we want to encourage it further.

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conservatism is driven by ignorance. you cant really separate the 2. its why critical thinking is antithetical to republicans.

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Driven by straw bogeymen.

This is just like the old satanic panic.

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Or the violent video games, or gangster rap, or dungeons & dragons, or that rock n roll music…

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Don’t forget movies and books were vilified when they became popular too!

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It’s reassurring to see that sometimes it really is just that someone has been misled, and that given the right opportunity they can change.

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While I hope this is the case, she may have simply been backed into a corner on a promise she couldn’t deliver.

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If you read the article, in it they have a picture of a preferential candidates card.

It’s in all caps, idk why, but one of the names of the people is CLINT HEAD

I had to do a double take, and I blurted out, “oh shit, are they becoming self-sware?” And obviously no, it’s proof of the exact opposite.

Stranger than fiction.smh.

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Sexus always turns folks around.

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