88 points

That’s because the US is a racist country. Some people just don’t have their heads out of the sand yet.

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I didn’t get how bad we really are until Obama was elected. It broke people’s brains. In hindsight I am still amazed we had a black president.

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Dude Obama isn’t that strange to me. He was seriously THE PERFECT “Black Man” and his family was a shining example of a perfect black family.

I dont mean to diminish what having a black man as president for two terms meant for many people around the country, small ripples possibly making it to the farthest reaches of the world. but come on. I’m white and at the time not particularly invested so much and even still I got the impression most of his energy was spent appeasing his peers who did not like him. And LBR that’s gonna be all Republicans and the media outlets they influence , as well as the unique flavor of racist bigot that only a democrat/white person who loves you can provide.

/Drunk ramble thanks

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Funny you say that because the USA is one of the least racist countries I’ve ever lived in or visited.

Find me a country that isn’t racist at all in one way or another.

Also, why the fuck does this meme have to be about black people instead of why a felon is in the discussion to be President in the first place.

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You seem to be (purposefully) construing “the US is a racist country” as “the US is the most racist country”. Racism does exist in other countries, and gets very bad in other countries as well, but the US is still fundamentally a racist country that pours a lot of resources into working against ethnic and racial minorities.

“White people would never let a black felon be president” is the point here because it constrasts with the current situation, which is “white people are letting a white felon be president” (at least it’s a very real possibility). It’s pointing out the discriminatory behaviours/thoughts persistent in American society, a felon being black is given significantly less leniency than a felon being white, and in general a black person is treated far worse and given far more obstacles than a white person for the same reasons. Especially by the majority racial demographic (white people). Any black candidate in Trump’s position would be completely ruined and practically out of the race already, not celebrated by half the country.

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I understand your point about the distinction between “the US is a racist country” and “the US is the most racist country.” Racism undeniably exists globally, and it’s severe in various places. However, the USA also actively confronts these issues, even though it’s far from perfect.

What I am saying is that we need to focus more on the standards for leadership- regardless of race. Obama was elected twice and his biggest crime was a tan suit.

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Also, why the fuck does this meme have to be about black people

Because its not a meme, but an opinion from a person who shared his personal thoughts on the internet.

Not everything becomes a meme by screenshoting.

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I mean we are on /policalmemes are we not

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Not everything becomes a meme by screenshoting

No, but it does when it’s shared and discussed.

Memes are more than just image macros and are much older of a concept than the internet

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The US is systematically racist, whereas we Finns for instance — at least in comparison — aren’t as much, but I’d bet there’s a lot more casual racism where I live than in any decently sized city in the US.

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Your total minority population is 8.2% and the USA minority population is 42.4%

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Not to mention that many black people are also more than willing to overlook crimes as long as it’s someone famous; see the OJ trials, R. Kelly, Drake, the list goes on.

So maybe it’s not a race thing, but just a shitty humanity thing?

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I mean, humans are terrible. But you’re completely neglecting how bitter centuries of open oppression can make a group. Some people thinking “Goddam, white people been doing this shit forever but the one time a caught it’s national news? 'Bout time we got away with something.” Getting away with major crimes becomes a metric for success when you’ve got little else to look forward to.

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If the Jan 6th insurrection was performed by black people they’d have been mowed down on the steps without ever setting foot inside.

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Who can forget the classic portrayal of MLK in the run up to the March on Washington?

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Yeah, they loved saying that he caused riots. It really removes the credibility of when they say other protesters are rioting. It’s almost like they don’t care how they behave and instead care about what they’re asking for (and if they’re “in their place”).

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4 points

It would have started hundreds of Tulsa race massacres across the country.

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68 points

Also every Republicans were tough on crime until Trump was convicted

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Big on law and order, right until that law is used to prosecute insurrectionists. Hypocrites

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3 points

White, er, right.

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Nah man go look at a lot of these clowns in the hate groups and you’ll see a lot of them are not even white. That leader of Proud Boys wasn’t even white. These are different days my friend.

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They did not give a shit about ignoring evidence during Impeachment I, so well before that.

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Also every Republicans were tough on crime until Trump was convicted

Their still tough on crime, unless it’s their candidate tried and convicted in a way that might impact an election - then he’s not a “convicted felon” he’s a “political prisoner”, at least according to right wing Twitter.

His being rich and white probably has a lot to do with that too. Though I imagine if he were tried and convicted this time last year there’d be at least a little less crying about it, they’d just push Ron or Nikki as their candidate instead. His not being convicted until he’s the only candidate and it’s essentially too late to really run anyone else instead makes it “feel” more like it’s using the criminal courts as a political attack vector rather than criminal justice doing it’s normal thing, regardless of whether or not that’s true.

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I mean republicans would never let ANYONE who is a convicted felon be president if they are not republican. It’s not just a race thing.

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It just about arguing in bad faith. You start with a conclusion you want in your mind, and then invent palatable excuses as to why that conclusion must be true.

It’s never been a logical route for their thoughts, just premise and emotion.

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This is why playing the “Gotcha!” game with Republicans doesn’t work, it’s not that they have a flawed understanding of the world (They do, but that’s not the point), it’s that they will not interact with anything that isn’t the conclusion they want.

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It’s never been a logical route for their thoughts

I’ve seen a few logical routes. I just don’t like where they ended.

“The Road to Serfdom”, “Free to Choose”, “Human Action”, “7 Habits of Highly Effective People”, and “God and Man at Yale” all spell out a coherent and concrete conservative ideology. But where do those thoughts ultimately terminate?

We get to an ecology strip minded to its foundation in pursuit of that next quarter of profit. We get a patriarchal household bordering on the autocratic. We get ethnic micro-states, forever at war with one another over every sleight or perceived grievance or heresy. We get cults of personality who drive self-aggrandized individuals this way and that in pursuit of some reward in the afterlife. We get a police state armed to the teeth lined up in front of a loudspeaker that insists we’re all entitled to unlimited freedom.

The logic is sound, because the axioms are built to inform us that these outcomes are what we want. This is the best of all possible worlds, the most we can ever hope for. And if we are dissatisfied with our lots in life, it is only because we failed in our commitment to pursue the ideology to its logical ends.

If anything, I would argue that modern conservatism is too logical. It is a rigid algorithm that refuses to acknowledge anything outside of its program and initial parameters. Conservatism is the logic of a boulder hurtling down a hill and into a vast sea, all the while telling the folks captured within “This is the natural way of things and could never have been improved in the slightest.”

It is the illogical utopian leftists who are charged with fishing the big rock out of the ocean and trying to push it back up the hill again.

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It is the illogical utopian leftists who are charged with fishing the big rock out of the ocean and trying to push it back up the hill again.

All while conservatives have chained it to the sea floor because “this is where it was intended to belong. It fell here so it was gods will.”

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1 point

And if their candidate was black then they would support them

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You’re making an assumption that they would have voted for a black candidate in the primaries.

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That’s pretty much how I knew Ben Carson wasn’t going to get the nomination in 2016, and his popularity surged exactly when I thought it would… Televised debates. I bet you his voting block believed that a name like “Dr. Ben Carson” had to have been a whitey.

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People have ran and received votes in primaries before, Herman Cain is another name for the pot

Trump’s strongest opponent this time around was an Indian woman

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21 points

How many people know at least one moron who’d say they did it for Obama because they assumed the black guy has a criminal history?

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I know some Truthers but even they believe in the existence of background checks.

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