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Looked up the article. They’re mad that Dolly Parton, who is a very outspoken Christian, is specifically the kind who embraces the “God loves everyone and that means we should love everyone, too” ethos of Christianity. In other words, the author of the article is pissed that Dolly doesn’t gaybash. What a fucking piece of shit you have to be to sit down and be like “you know what’s wrong with this person? They aren’t cruel enough.”

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Us queers love dolly parton. Whoever wrote that had no fucking clue what they’d unleash.

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I think Dolly is who drag queens aim for, but they can’t get their hair floofy enough.

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42 points

You haven’t met enough drag queens. There is no limit to how much floof the can get out of a cheap wig.

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35 points

I heard her tell a story about how she entered a Dolly Parton drag competition on a whim. She was delighted that she lost!

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2 points

My hidden hair is floofy, just need some dye

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23 points

Christians would hate Jesus

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Its never about “loving everyone” its about “accepting everyone”. Those are different things.

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Not sure what your point is, but I have a hard time imagining love and acceptance not going hand in hand.

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For example; you should always love your kid, but you should not necessarily accept what they chose to do or what they become.

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Metal head here who idolizes Dolly. She’s a national treasure the likes of Mister Rogers. Who has also been attacked by the right.

For those interested she’s in a couple of VERY trans positive episodes of The Orville (one just her song 9-5 and the other in a long scene as herself).

Anyone bashing Dolly hates freedom is no good. A full on poophead.

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She’s also in the movie 9 to 5, which was what the song was written for, which is about three women who have had enough of their misogynist boss and get revenge on him. On top of that, she starred in The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas, which is one of the few films which doesn’t denigrate sex workers and actually shows them as normal people.

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I saw 9 to 5 when it came out as I am old. I still love it.

All 3 female leads were awesome, and she absolutely held her own against the legendary Tomlin and Fonda. Also recently passed Dabney Coleman.

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I was only 3 when it came out, but it was definitely a regular staple of the cable movie channels when I got older. My dad was a film historian, so we had all the movie channels so he could tape movies to show them in class. 9 to 5 would show up on occasion.

As you suggested, what an amazing cast!

Edit: Just read this on the IMDB-

This was Dolly Parton’s theatrical film debut. In preparation for her role as Doralee Rhodes, she not only committed to memory her own part, but the parts of every other role in the film. Apparently, the two experienced starring actresses, Lily Tomlin and Jane Fonda, burst out laughing when Parton let on that she believed that pictures were filmed in the chronological order of a film’s script.

That’s adorable and also impressive.

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One of the many things I love about The Orville is that the song 9-5 became a revolutionary feminist anthem to the Moclans. And that she was sweet enough to make a cameo.

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She’s all around awesome. Always helped people, always gives back. Always been kind. And a certified rock star! I have no tattoos, never seen the allure. But if I woke up with Dolly’s face tattooed I wouldn’t even be angry.

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Shit newspaper with shit ideas.

“christianity is about hating people and Dolly doesn’t hate people enough” -the federalist, basically

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I would have few problems with Christianity if Dolly was the standard Christians tried to live up to. They sure as hell don’t try to live up to Christ’s standards.

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36 points

Through my teenage years I got wrapped up in an evangelical environment, but as an adult found my way to a non- denominational church. It was eye opening. The more I talked to the pastor, learned and read, I realized that people get wrapped up in their denominations like sports teams. And since the different denominations come about because of different interpretations of Scripture and the “rules” some group puts into place for their team, no wonder it’s the perfect environment for creating a culture of control and abuse for those seeking power.

This doesn’t make me not believe in God, this makes me not trust the motivations of people in power. On the day to day, I try to be the best I can to people around me, and share love, kindness, and respect. That’s my big take away from Jesus’ teachings at least.

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That is exactly what Jesus was teaching,from what I remember of my time in church. At least when you strip out the religion and deity worship.

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There are many Christians whose faith does not involve pushing the law on others, but instead focus on the gospel and its inclusive nature.

These aren’t the loud ones who push regressive policies. Because the ones pushing regressive policies aren’t doing so because their religion tells them to, they’re making their religion fit whatever they feel the world should look like, picking and choosing which rules to follow or ignore based on their worldview, shaping their religion to fit their bigotry. They would hate Jesus, who preached paying taxes, being generous to the needy, and accepting sinners and those despised by the establishment of the time.

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If it was just a handful, you wouldn’t have situations like the anti-LGBT law in Uganda or just Trump’s election in 2016.

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they should be the loud ones though, i really struggle to see how you can be a good christian in america without having john brown as a role model.

like, the Swedish Church (closest we have to a state religion) is actively and aggressively pro-lgbt, if anyone tries to spread hate they smack them with a bible and shut that shit down fast.

Sensible religious people don’t have to sit in the background doing charity work like a sailor futilely scooping water out of a leaky boat, they can speak up and push back against what can be rightfully classed as blasphemy that spreads hate and injustice.

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I’m almost certain they’ve all decided Jesus was a loser and decided to root for Barabbas instead.

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Imagine what Jesus would say about “The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas”.

He’d probably clap until his wrists were sore.

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I mentioned elsewhere- it’s one of the few movies where sex workers aren’t demonized. And then ending… His political career will be over if he marries the madam? Oh well, love is love.

I discovered today that the director of 9 to 5 also directed that film, which doesn’t surprise me.

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I mean, in context that verse is about being aware one’s belief in Jesus may cause strife with their family/community, and how Christians are meant to endure this strife without denying their faith. The choice of wording makes sense in the context of the time it was written, when affirming Christ is God would have absolutely caused some major animosity with those who don’t believe. It’s assuring the reader that the division and pain that will come from those disagreements is not lost on God, and also not something we can turn away from and ignore.

The Christians that everyone is up in arms about all the time are close to the worst representation of the faith as possible, and you can easily point out their lazy interpretations as well as scripture that, more often than not, outright rejects their twisting of the faith. Modern day Pharisees all the way. Unfortunately the church on a national level is inundated with them, and has done a poor job of separating from them.

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29 points

I mean look what they did to Mr. Rogers

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Uh oh… what did they do to Mr Rogers?

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32 points

Tried to turn him into a Transphobe icon by deliberately misinterpreting his more banal aphorisms.

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Let’s just say they’ve been on their “special snowflake” ranting looooooong before you may remember

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103 points

If you’re ever on the opposite side of Dolly on an ethical or moral issue, you’re on the wrong side.

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From the comments:

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Fucking eh!

If you spend 10 minutes looking into Dolly Parton, you’ll find a Fucking Angel.

Legitimately. Look into her reading program. Not just the news articles, but the written deals. She makes sure that if her program is a success, that the county is contracted to keep it going FOR-FUCKING-EVER. Her legacy is generations of kids who graduate high school because she sent them books.

And that’s just ONE thing she did, with a legacy that will outlast every one of us.

We ride at dawn.

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86 points

That’s exactly why they hate her. She gives kids free books, no strings attached.

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I can think of other reasons

There’s a better life
And you think about it, don’t you?
It’s a rich man’s game
No matter what they call it
And you spend your life
Putting money in his wallet

-9 to 5

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She’s not only an angel, she’s a straight up bad removed in every possible sense.

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Did you censor the word “bitch” or is this some sort of fucking idiot censorship on lemmy.world? Fucking swear I’ll leave this instance at a drop of a hat if it is dumbass censorship. (Edit: It’s shitty ass lemmy.ml that’s censoring it, which is the above users home instance.)

Words don’t need to be blanket censored on the internet. Go ham with moderation but censoring words is how we end up with weird phrases like “unalive” instead of what they actually are murder, suicide, and death. Which makes it fucking hard to talk about fucking real god damn mother fucking problems people are dealing with you corporate bitch ass shills.

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I guess lemmy.ml filters the word ass ! lol

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Ahhh unity

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I’m actually mostly surprised by the nerdcore hip-hop call out. I just assumed the genre melded with mainstream.

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