A wealthy California woman who co-founded a burn center foundation in the Los Angeles area was sentenced to 15 years to life in prison Monday for the hit-and-run killings of two children while they were in a crosswalk more than three years ago.

Rebecca Grossman was speeding when she struck and killed Mark Iskander, 11, and his brother Jacob, 8, while they were in a crosswalk in the Los Angeles-area city of Westlake Village on Sept. 29, 2020.

“The loss of these two innocent lives has devastated their family and our community. Ms. Grossman’s blatant disregard for human life is a stark reminder of the grave consequences of irresponsible behavior behind the wheel,” Los Angeles County District Attorney George Gascón said in a statement.

A jury convicted Grossman in February on two counts of second-degree murder, two counts of vehicular manslaughter with gross negligence and one count of hit-and-run driving resulting in death.

134 points

Showing up in the news and being described as a socialite just about guarantees that the person in question is a piece of garbage.

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107 points

Socialite = “unemployed, but rich”

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47 points

I think it means “unemployed, rich, woman”

as “unemployed, rich” men tend to get called “entrepeneur”

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5 points

I don’t know… I know some non-rich men who go by entrepreneur as well.

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1 point

I think the bare definition of an entrepreneur is to own a business. It used to be owning a business that you started, but Elon Musk gets called one all the time so that’s no longer true, either.

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I have a lot of questions about this that the article doesn’t explain. How fast was she going? Why was she speeding? What was the speed limit on the road? Was alcohol involved? And why isn’t my country anywhere near as harsh when it comes to vehicular homicide?

EDIT: an earlier article also linked does explain most of this.

  • 81mph, presumably in an area with a 30mph speed limit
  • Apparently consumed two margaritas according to witnesses even though she was not criminally charged for a DUI. Likely that it was seriously strong tequila and triple sec consumed.
  • Showed zero remorse for the fact she ended lives.
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Jesus! 80 in a 30?!!? That’s fucking insane.

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Old Hag thought she was speed racer. The USA has a serious cocaine problem, and I’m not talking about the hood.

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The more advanced a country is, the more they realize that long incarceration does’t really do much in terms of addressing the root problem, and it doesn’t really deter crime. Its only benefit is keeping a certain subset of actively dangerous people from further endangering society. Other than that it merely assuages the anger of society and victims in a tit for tat way. Rehabilitation, if possible, is a more useful approach.

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That said anyone who thinks it’s okay to drink and do 80 through a crosswalk is a dangerous person.

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I’m impressed that they managed to lock up a rich person for a crime. I’m not going to bother reading the article because I just don’t care, but calling her is socialite implies to me that she’s old money. I’m not sure whether old money or new money is worse, but both are rich and #eatherich

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Cynic in me assumes the victims’ family is richer.

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westlake village ain’t the barrio, for sure

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I’m just going to start referring to myself as a socialite. Yeah, I’m pretty much a shut-in who only hangs out with his wife and kid, and yeah, I manage a produce section at a grocery store for a living and only pull about 49k gross, but it sure sounds distinguished, eh?

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15 points

workers are always preferable to leeches. You do yourself a disfavor by pretending to be haute bourgeoisie.

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Got any horror stories or tips as an insider?

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Wash your produce to the best of your ability. Old ladies (and occasional men) believe it’s their inherent right to lick their fingers every time they go to open a bag, and then pick through all the produce for the one they like most. Also, Cosmic Crisp is the best apple available.

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2 points

always squeeze the melons. try before you buy

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15 points

Every once in a while they sacrifice one to show us things are “fair”. She probably wasn’t super rich either.

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23 points

The rich are surprisingly onboard with imprisoning their wives over 40.

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4 points

True

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13 points

This one was too cut and dry and with extreme negligence, plus it involved young children.

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Testimony disputing the defense’s claim that another vehicle driven by Grossman’s ex-boyfriend Scott Erickson struck the boys first, with witnesses stating Erickson’s black SUV did not hit them.

So she tried to throw her ex under the bus in her defense, but let’s also consider that two people traveling to the same location and back took two separate SUVs instead of coordinating together

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You can’t carpool while doing crime. Too many witnesses

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3 points

Should have used a Tesla. They got the trolley problem solved.

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Grossman, now 60, was speeding behind a car driven by her then-lover, former Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher Scott Erickson, when she fatally hit the boys, prosecutors have said.

Who the fuck is this person?

As another commenter noted, she’s just listed as a “socialite”—translating to “unemployed idle person of/from wealthy family”. And on top of being a socialite noted for founding a burn victim charity under her husband’s name, she killed a couple of kids while speeding behind her former MLB playing “lover”?

And the defense she offered was,* “If I had seen them, I would have avoided them”.*

No shit, lady. That doesn’t make you a good person. Her response makes it clear she has never experienced accountability for her shitty actions before.

“Listen, Judge—and you too, jury—if I was looking at all the things I was about to drive over, I would have totally not committed manslaughter. I really think I did a terrific job for how fast I was driving behind my lover. I really am the sort of wonderful person who would continue to drive fast and recklessly in a selfish fashion, and would even consider driving my vehicle into a tree rather than run over little boys (if I could see them) or change my behavior in any discernible way (I’ve never needed to before), or suggest that I am accountable for my actions (LOL). You see, when something bad happens (for me), it really needs to be someone else’s fault, or at least people should agree that whatever happened wasn’t that bad and I must have already suffered enough. Don’t you think I’ve suffered enough? I’ve probably suffered the most throughout this whole ordeal, out of anyone. I’m self-convinced everyone agrees with me and I can assure you that I lack the empathy to understand any other viewpoint. I think we are done here. Have the valet bring my car around, the Diamond Backs are in town and I’m feeling in a southwest sort of mood.”

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I’ve met people who think similarly. For them, “I didn’t mean to” is exculpatory. Now, the ones I’ve known were under 12 years old but I can imagine if people let them get away with that enough that thinking might carry over into adulthood.

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