129 points

As a French, the fact that no white flag was mentioned in these comments like it would have inevitably on reddit shows the quality of the chaps in here.

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France has shown themself to be made of much sterner stuff in the last couple decades then the stereotypes and jokes like to make out. I mean that’s not going to stop the English from making fun of France, but they still have nobility like this was 1650 or something.

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16 points

Last couple decades? There historically the most winningest military of all time bar none.

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The French have always been pretty strong. I don’t know what history you read, but they’ve pretty consistently had one of the strongest militaries in the world. Sure, they surrendered quickly on WWII, but the people kept fighting even then when their government was occupied. They were one of the first nations to aid the United States also and have always been pretty active.

Is this all good? Idk. Besides resisting the Nazis after the occupation, I would very much argue much of this is bad (or at best self-serving). It’s nation-state shit. It’s never out of marality. They’re strong though.

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I said it was a stereotype. Overcoming that popular stereotype has been a lot harder than actually having a good military. And demonstrating that you have a good military is different than having one at all. Right or wrong, in the minds of many Americans they didn’t start seeming strong until after 9/11.

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8 points

The English were assroped by the French Normans that they had to rename many common foodstuffs.

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4 points

Rename or simply discover what food actually is?

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2 points

And then by French Angevins, which was later but left an even bigger impact on the language. So twice.

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4 points

Wait what fuck the nobility no matter what country

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If the Queen was still alive, I’d have had to eviscerate you for that.

But nobody cares about Jug Ears.

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France has shown themself to be made of much sterner stuff in the last couple decades

WDYM? France has been participating in plenty of undeclared, unofficial and gray zone wars practically since WWII till now.

the stereotypes and jokes like to make out

These change with time. Most of European history the stereotypic image of French people was much tougher than that of Germans.

After 1971 - yeah. Interwar - no. After that - again yes.

EDIT: 1871

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18 points

Liberté, égalité, fraternité. The Americans learned it from you lot. Might do them well to remember.

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7 points

Wasn’t the American revolution like a decade before the French one?

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5 points

Yep, you’re right. After a quick search, it looks like the American Revolution started in 1765, and the French Revolution started in 1789.

However, I know French policies and political development had a profound impact on the ideas central to liberal democracies, as it could also be said of American policies and political development.

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7 points

You sure wouldn’t hear that from me. French forces have been badass for a long time.

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I don’t really care about glorifying past military victories but rather about the fact that the white flag internet meme appeared when the French government refused to follow the USA into Irak War II. https://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/07/villepin.transcript/

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6 points

I had no idea that’s where those jokes came from, that’s so ridiculous

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6 points

Fucking good on them. That war was bullshit.

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7 points

Y’all fight in the streets better than us. We’ve got no leg to stand on.

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7 points

Fun fact: the white flag of surrender became widely known in Europe because people were surrendering to the French.

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6 points

Way to ruin it.

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98 points

FROZEN DAIRY DESSERT

Yum, I love air, gums, and stabilizers in my dairy desserts

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I’m fine with the air part. There’s air in all kinds of whipped desserts.

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15 points

depends whether the price reflects it or it’s an attempt to trick you into paying more for less

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14 points

Personally, I care more about the volume of ice cream I eat than the mass. I don’t want to pay more for more calories when diminishing marginal utility is already in effect.

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9 points

All ice creams have air in them… it’s sort of the point. If you freeze dairy without whipping it it turns solid.

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2 points

Always helps to check the unit price by weight that you can usually find on grocery store price tags (often written on a red/orange background but sometimes just in small print off to the side).

The volume of 2 containers can be the same, and checkout price can be the same, but if one is listed as $0.15/oz and the other is $0.20/oz, the cheaper one has more in it.

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21 points

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yeah, but they call them “shakes”.

“shakes”, heh. don’t know what you’re gunna get.

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Yep, screw Breyer’s. They legally cannot call it ice cream.

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I looked into making my own ice cream once and had to realize, that practically any store bought ice cream must contain at least some, because my homemade ice cream immediately melted and was impossible to keep im a freezer…

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Something about the colors makes me feel like this ice cream is full of TRANS fats.

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I just really need to point out that no where on this product is it called ice cream. It’s a frozen dairy product.

It really bothers me that they’re allowed to slap whatever bullshit in an ice cream container, and as long as it’s called anything else in the fine print, the fact that we all assume it’s ice cream is on US.

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42 points

From the United States Code of Federal Regulations:

§ 58.2825 United States Standard for ice cream.

(a) Ice cream shall contain at least 1.6 pounds of total solids to the gallon, weigh not less than 4.5 pounds to the gallon, and contain not less than 20 percent total milk solids, constituted of not less than 10 percent milkfat. In no case shall the content of milk solids not fat be less than 6 percent. Whey shall not, by weight, be more than 25 percent of the milk solids not fat.

It continues on in that fashion, but if I’m honest I see this as the system working correctly. The food in that carton likely doesn’t meet the legal, technical definition of ice cream and thus cannot be labeled as such, and it isn’t. There are things that are labelled as ice cream in Europe which cannot be labelled as such here because they don’t conform to the above standards. But if you were served a scoop of it and asked what it was, you would confidently identify it as ice cream.

I’ll tell you what does bother me though: The front of the package and a marketing blurb on their website refers to it as vanilla, strawberry and blueberry flavored, but the ingredients are listed as:

INGREDIENTS: SKIM MILK, CORN SYRUP, SUGAR, CREAM, FRUCTOSE, STRAWBERRIES, WATER, COCONUT OIL, WHEY, LESS THAN 2% OF: MONO AND DIGLYCERIDES, GUAR GUM, NATURAL FLAVOR, BEET JUICE (FOR COLOR), CAROB BEAN GUM, TARA GUM, SPIRULINA EXTRACT (FOR COLOR), ANNATTO (FOR COLOR), VITAMIN A PALMITATE. CONTAINS MILK

Vanilla and blueberries are not listed among the ingredients. I’m guessing whatever wood pulp derived vanillin that most of the vanilla flavored things in the world are actually flavored by is included in the “natural flavor” and we’re left to guess where any “bold blueberry deliciousness” is supposed to come from.

I’ve long thought they shouldn’t be allowed to put “natural flavor” as an ingredient as that is too vague, what if there is a “natural flavor” you are allergic to? What if that “natural flavor” is cat smegma?

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The blueberry and vanilla flavors are included in the “natural flavors” listing. The FDA defines natural flavors as those that are made by extracting/distilling the flavor from an actual food. It doesn’t have blueberries or vanilla; it has the flavor from blueberries and vanilla in the form of blueberry and vanilla extracts.

Artificial flavors are those synthesized in a lab without ever using the original food item.

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I think you mean beaver anal scrapings and not cat smegma… But the point is valid.

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3 points

There out of the top five ingredients are different kinds of sugar. I love how companies try to hide how much sugar is in their prices foods.

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What if that “natural flavor” is cat smegma?

That’s fine, thanks. I’m not allergic to cat smegma.

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There are things that are labelled as ice cream in Europe which cannot be labelled as such here because they don’t conform to the above standards

What are the standards for labeling something ‘Ice-cream’ in Europe?

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Here’s the actual list of ingredients. https://smartlabel.unileverusa.com/077567003539-0001-en-US/index.html#ingredients It does have milk, but no blueberries.

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I’d be kind of annoyed if it wasn’t cat smegma for my cat smegma ice cream.

I think natural flavors have to be related to the name on the product - a small amount natural grape juice in apple juice to modify the flavor would be listed as an artificial ingredient.

I recall that used to be true, but don’t have a good way to verify it ever was other than reading the labelling laws, or if it still is, since companies fight a constant battle to degrade the usefulness of food labels.

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Blaming the person being lied to instead of the liar is kind of BS.

It’s on the company and the FDA which was literally created to stop this kind of nonsense and abandonded its duties decades ago.

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4 points

Except on their actual ice cream it says ice cream and on their frozen dairy treats they call them frozen dairy treats.

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🌎🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀🇫🇷

Always has been

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