No amount of whitewashing is going to fix that. Almost half of them in-fact celebrate it.

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Let me guess, it’s their “heritage” that they want to preserve. All 4 years of it - slavery adoring traitors.

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Yep. Andrew Clyde is a fuckin asshole and always has been. He owns a gun store that he made look like a fortress and it’s half the reason anyone even voted for him.

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That building looks so unbelievably silly

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Not sure if it’s there anymore, but there used to be a tank or other armored vehicle out front

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I love pointing out that the 8-year-long Obama administration is a much bigger part of their heritage.

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This is why monuments glorifying horrors shouldn’t just be taken down, they should be completely destroyed

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I understand your sentiment but don’t you think they would do the world more good in an exhibit or museum that explains the cultural context? Those who forget are doomed etc.

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Generally I would say yes but a lot of confederate monuments were made after the war so aren’t so much history but an attempt to rewrite it to make themselves look more favorable.

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Well let’s.give that context in then

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Personally that feels like a slippery slope to me. I agree destroying history just because it has become distasteful is not a good solution. At the same time museum context is not always as good as it should be. It is often written by someone who doesn’t have any personal experience.

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The cultural context was that it was put in the cemetery by butthurt Southerners over 50 years after the war.

Like all of these other “my heritage!!!” monuments that were put up in the 20th century.

It belongs in a history museum as much as a statue of Hitler some Neo-Nazi carved today belongs in one.

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While I see your point, I fear that even in the context of a museum they would become targets of pilgrimage for people who missed the glory days.

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What if it had never been built to begin with?

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That would be preferable.

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History is written by the winners. Get bent confederates.

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Sculptor Moses Ezekiel included the weeping figure of the loyal black mammy as a correction to what he and the UDC saw as lies about history perpetrated by the North.

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Talented guy!

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Honestly, it’s not as bad as I expected. It’s one of those ones with a big angel on top, and then a bunch of scenes around the base, and I’m assuming the problematic bits are just among the scenes somewhere.

I’m not saying it should be restored, but it’s not like it’s a statue of only the bad stuff. I could see how someone who doesn’t really care could look at the picture from afar and go “what!? They took down a commemorative grave monument? Sacrilege!”

I guess what I’m saying is that it’s not like they necessarily voted to put up a big statue of a slave, they voted to put up a statue with many figures, including a slave in it somewhere. Still probably best to leave it gone, though.

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If I told you that there was a painting honoring fallen soldiers and they only hid a couple swastikas in it there would be no conversation to be had.

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Your analogy is good but sadly you’re mistaken about “there would be no conversation to be had.” There’s a part of the Wrong Wing party that would fight for it.

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This comment was written by someone whose family wasn’t enslaved

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When I was reading the description, this is the part that made me certain it needed to go:

This Latin phrase means: “The Victorious Cause was Pleasing to the Gods, But the Lost Cause Pleased Cato.” It is a quotation from the poem Pharsalia by the ancient Roman poet Lucan. It refers to the attempt by the Roman Senator Pompey to prevent Julius Caesar from becoming dictator of Rome in 49 BC. Although he lost, Pompey’s actions pleased the great philosopher and statesman Cato (who was noted for his moral integrity).

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So basically, anti slavery pleased God but pro slavery pleased Cato which would be a reference to all people with moral integrity in this case.

My interpretation is correct?

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Somewhere? Marching into fucking battle on behalf of the Confederacy.

You’re arguing in favor of the equivalent of a mural that shows a Jew fighting on the Nazi front lines.

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Check the totals, wasn’t even close.

Here is how these things work:

Congressmen are not completely stupid, with 3 or 5 notable exceptions. The GOP knew they were losing this vote. They didn’t try to pass anything. Hell, many, maybe most, either don’t care or don’t even want the cursed thing back.

This is pure virtue signaling for their constituents. How many of the GOP “nay” votes do you figure are solid seats with no chance of getting primaried? How many “yea” voters were worried about being called out in a campaign ad? Be interesting to analyze.

As to what that says about GOP voters, go nuts in the comments and remember to like and subscribe.

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