Any predictions on how long it’ll take for conservatives to start outlawing sterilizations for women?
My friend with severe PCOS and who would never be able to be pregnant had the hardest time already trying to get a hysterectomy at 28. Even asked about her future husband being ok with this decision.
So we aren’t that far off already.
To be fair, men also get asked if they’re really sure by some doctors when going in for a vasectomy. Even when closing in on 50 and with three kids at home. But as long as they perform the procedure I don’t care.
I had mine at 42 and I don’t think there was much asking if this is what I really wanted. It was an explanation of the procedure and how long I’ll be out.
Day of, it was snip snip, have a good day. No need for the frozen peas on your nuts.
It’s exceptionally difficult already for a woman to get sterilized. The decider may be whether sterilization has the same stigma/religious fervor around it that abortion has in that people will willingly waste their weekends off protesting against it.
I’m optimistic, but America likes to disappoint me.
Honestly it’s so difficult to get done as it is that they don’t even need to outlaw. It’s virtually unobtainable for most women unless they already have “enough” kids, whatever that means to a specific doctor, or they travel to find a willing doctor.
It took me 8 years to get it done because I’ve never reproduced (childfree by choice). And I’m one of the easier stories. I got it done at 27, in 2015, and while some doctors are more willing now, most aren’t. Especially in conservative areas.
All they have to do is keep making doctors scared to offer proper reproductive care, make it risky and they stop going into that field. You don’t need to make it illegal, just impossible. Rich white people will still be able to choose, so they don’t care.
I had to deal with a whole bunch of people asking me hypothetical questions. What if you regret it? (what if I regret having them?), what about your future partner? (If they are right for me they also don’t want kids, and I don’t plan to get married anyway). What if you change your mind? (I will adopt if that happens. I don’t believe sharing my junk genetics is important, and the chances of issues are high anyway since I’m also broken, and there are plenty of not-infant kids who need homes if I get maternal, but kids under 5 aren’t my jam and probably never will be, and I’m probably too negligent to raise them right anyway). Ultimately they couldn’t argue with my logic but it took years of finding the right doctors getting the right consultations, etc.
That’s why I hauled ass to the doctor and got a bisalp scheduled asap. I ended up getting them to agree to a hysterectomy this year, which is what I really wanted, but I wasn’t willing to take a chance on that not happening. I’m no longer in the young category, but I was only 38 and potentially still fertile (and way more likely to have complications from being “geriatric”).
I am going with a while. They just don’t change their minds quickly and get distracted easily. It took them almost half a century to get abortion banned in a few states, only 2 of which have any real population size.
Sure eventually they will grok on that abortion was the last resort option out of many tools but not overnight. Then even when they do they have to come up with good arguments to hide their goals. Which again will take time.
We all know you’re full of shit, but just in case you’re a useful idiot to conservatism instead of cynical grifter…
If you want fewer abortions, the answer has been obvious for decades — sex ed and birth control made available to everyone that wants it, which results in fewer unwanted pregnancies, which results in fewer abortions.
Your moron political group and its insistence on overturning Roe resulted in an increase in abortions. 2023 had the highest number and rate in literally decades. So if you’re dumb enough to think that’s “murdering babies,” then congrats. The people you vote for increased the body count.
If I were pregnant (and presumably had a uterus) I would probably be more likely to seek an abortion knowing that there is now a greater chance I would die giving birth then before.
Before: ok every pregnancy is risky as well as birth there is a small but possible chance things could go badly for me but medical science will do what is required for me to survive including ending the pregnancy even at the last second.
Now: if I need an abortion later I won’t be able to get one and will die. I better go to a state where it is legal and get it done now.
The lesbian woman got sterelized in case she gets raped so it doesn’t result in pregnancy. That’s … wow.
Hard truth for folks to understand is people actually fuck because it’s fun and a healthy part of a relationship.
This is what happens when you have no alternatives left to manage accidents and don’t want to live like a nun or monk.
Oh they understand people fuck, and the people who want to ban abortion and contraception want people to have kids they didn’t want for various reasons.
Not just that, it eliminates power and influence from women too. More drop outs, and more discrimination in job interviews.
The pill was a huge thing. Women could choose when/if they became pregnant allowing them to have flexibility in their sexual and professional lives.
Conservatives want to take that away as well as breed an army of desperate wage slaves ripe for exploitation.
Dear young men. Get a vasectomy. You don’t want to raise children in a doomed future, plus it might do wonders to your dating profile.
The number of young men getting vasectomies also shot up, but men still get sterilized much less often than women.
I got mine in September. I’d kicked the can down the road for years but finally pulled the trigger largely because of Roe being overturned.
I was broke as hell and the vasectomy was going to cost $700.
I finally saved $700, and when I went in they said “shit dawg, you’re broke as hell. Here is this program to make it free”
So even if you can’t afford it, try reaching out to your local planned parenthood. They know how to navigate the benefit system better then you.
The only reason I haven’t is because I’m ace, so nothing’s happening until I intentionally attempt for kids
I’ll admit that I’d never considered your situation before and feel that I have learned quite a lot very suddenly. Thank you.
I only recently started to realize that myself actually. Even growing up with LGBT+ folks exploding in visibility, it was always in the direction of allosexual folks. I grew up being conditioned to believe whatever I felt about sex should be ignored and that I should seek it out.
What I’ve realized is that I’m not sex-adverse like I assumed ace folks would be, I just don’t care or think about it. I also don’t get the hype around sex. That’s also a valid asexual outlook. Some day I do want to be a dad though, so I need the very same family planning resources that are currently being chipped away.
