And what will homeless people do now that Boise is gone. And environmentalists now that Chevron is gone?
If anybody read the study, which I highly doubt, you’ll see that this story is highly exaggerated. The actually study showed the sterilization in women went from 2.83 per 100k people per month before Dobbs to 5.31 per 100k people per month after Dobbs. For men, the increase went from 1.03 per 100k people per month to 1.18 per 100k people per month.
Here’s the study for anybody who wants to see it:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama-health-forum/fullarticle/2817438
There is a visible increase, but the actual rate is a lot smaller than what this article is attempting to suggest.
I didn’t read this article, so idk how they spun things, but given the title and the information you shared from the actual study, they sensationalized, not exaggerated. 5.31 is an 87% increase from 2.31, which is a rounding error off 2x. Honestly, in medical/psychological/anthropological/sociological studies the sigmas are never high enough for my comfort as a probabilist anyway.
Usually rates that involve small raw numbers get swayed pretty significantly by relatively small changes. For example, Malta had a 3 murders last year, if that number doubled to 6, the homicide rate would increase by 100%. That’s a very significant increase, but does it imply that Malta has turned into a dangerous country? Not really, no. The increase would make it’s rate go from 0.561 per 100k to 1.122 per 100k, that’s around the same as New Zealand which is another very safe country. It should still be noted and discussed because there’s value in that, but my point is that these trends and swings in statistics can be pretty misleading if not put into proper context.
Oh, I get that. I actually have a BS in Applied Mathematics and specialize in Statistics, Probability Theory, and Data Science professionally. I am well aware of how unstable thses numbers are, which is why I made the jab at the “soft sciences” and their acceptable sigma analysis points.
What I was more noting was the linguistic tic of OP saying that they ‘exaggerated’. I freely admit that I did not actually read the article and do not know what the author did in it, but the click-bait title was accurate given the data shared. So what was done is to ‘sensationalize’ the results. If we are ever going to get better and teach society how to understand when statistics are being used to manipulate, we need to be sure to describe it in a way that people can recognize one manipulation from another.
I would see an example of manipulation through exaggeration being “cops kill more white people per year than black people”. Yes, this is true, but it is inflating one piece of the statistics that ignores a lot of relevant factors, like the per capita rate, the proportion of stops and actions by police which result in violence, etc.
Sensationalizing is what we have here. Intentionally choosing words that fell the full picture of the statistic in a way which causes knee jerk reactions. There isn’t anything left out per se, the time frame is described, the change in the statistic is mentioned, and a potential causal relationship is proffered. Would "The overturning of Roe has caused a statistically significant increase in the number of voluntary sterilizations among young US Citizens’ haave been more genuine, yes. Is it catchy or emotional, no.
Part of the reason why I am getting my daughters citizenship abroad. One day, I hope that day never ever comes, they might need it.
I recently thought about that, but realized that if America falls, it will totally screw Europe, much of South America, and probably Canada. Russia and China both have hopes to colonize Europe and many of the countries surrounding china.
In short, I think it’s best I stay here and vote for all those countries that depend on us and can’t vote in our elections. Keeps everywhere else stable and safe by extension.
I personally don’t plan to leave, because I am not in any real danger. Fuck yeah it’s great to be a hetro male on top of the racial-ethic pyramid. 10/10 would recommend.
It’s my multiracial daughters who could be in danger. We are like one bad election way from Republic of Gilead. So yeah I am preparing for the worst, hoping for the best. Have enough money saved up that I can get them on airplane out, keep the passports up-to-date, and working on making sure they got citizenship in my wife’s home country. As for what they would do when they get there my wife’s family well-off, is big, and loves them.
My wife holds dual citizenship and her country has many ex-pats so they have right of return laws.
Next month we have an appointment with the embassy with her country as well as the interviews. I also have them in a class where they are learning the language of her country.
It depends on the country, but many are just time based. We moved by getting work and education visas and are renewing them until we can apply for residency, then citizenship. Luckily we’ve been planning this for over a decade and we had managed to save up and plan… I’ve personally seen several people try to do the same and had to return to the US for financial reasons. It’s heartbreaking.
I’d get a second vasectomy if I thought it would help. The first one was super easy.
It seems the US is truly falling into the hands of religious zealots despite a Senate and President who pushes the other way. Tells you how much power the Supreme Court has.
It also makes it very clear that you can’t jump ship just because of a bad debate. It’s about policy, not one person’s debate skills.
I’m looking to reenter the dating pool in the near future and this has been on my mind, especially in light of Roe and my location in middle America. Would you be willing to share your personal experience with the procedure? Everyone says it’s very easy, but I gotta be honest, it makes me nervous.
If you’re nervous, they can knock you out for the procedure. You can’t drive yourself though. And not just any driver will do. They need to be responsible for you. So no taxis. I had nobody to help me out, so I went for local anesthesia.
I cracked jokes, which they said was a common coping mechanism for nervous guys. The nurses laughed, but the doc kept a straight face and steady hand. A couple tiny needle pokes were unpleasant, as was the tugging on the vas deferens, but neither particularly painful. Afterward I drove myself home to play video games and get high for a weekend. A bit of soreness for a couple days, but nothing compared to what she would have endured. I went back to work before recommended, and also masturbated too soon, but suffered no ill effects.
7 years now, zero regrets.
I was nervous before mine, but it wasn’t bad at all. The worst part was the slight pinch in my balls when they gave me the local anesthetic. It took about fifteen minutes, and I walked out just fine.
I sat on the couch all weekend and watched action movies which was awesome. Ibuprofen was more than enough for the pain, and I was able to do light house work in a couple days.
Get some reviews of doctors in your area, but I would definitely recommend getting one if you don’t want any kids.
slight pinch in my balls when they gave me the local anesthetic.
Slight pinch? Brother don’t sugar coat it. It feels like getting kicked in the sack by a mule. But it’s only for a moment and its still 100% worth it.
For me, my vasectomy was probably the single most miserable medical procedure I’ve ever had performed, but the recovery wasn’t bad at all and I would still get it done in a heartbeat.
The lesbian woman got sterelized in case she gets raped so it doesn’t result in pregnancy. That’s … wow.
