YouTube is changing the homepage experience for users who have their watch history turned off. They will now see an almost blank homepage with just a search bar and buttons for Shorts, Subscriptions and Library. This is intended to make it clear that personalized recommendations rely on watch history data. The new design aims to avoid extreme thumbnails and instead focus search. Some users have already started seeing this change, though it may not be fully rolled out yet. The goal is to both help those who prefer searching over recommendations, and potentially encourage users to turn their history back on. Overall this represents a major interface change focused on watch history preferences.


What’s been your experience with youtube recommendations? For me they are consistently hot garbage.

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Is this not a privacy win though? Isn’t this what people want?

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lol right? I call this an absolute win! Less garbage on the homepage and more privacy! Should be a search bar and that’s about it

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I agree, it should look like the Google home page. I’m actually surprised google has never gone the way of Yahoo, MSN, etc and crammed their home page full of shit “news” articles & videos.

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That’s what makes them different and they know it, the simple search page. They learned a long time ago to fill the results page with shit instead

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@peter I’m not actually sure if this is a privacy win at all. I use Google for years with disabled history (and other stuff disabled) and this new change does not make any difference to my privacy. At the moment, still, the home feed recommendations is mostly about videos from my subscriptions, past videos and the newest one. All it does is take away that view, which does not improve privacy. What actually improves privacy is to disable the history, which you could do since years.

Edit: I totally forgot the link I wanted to provide: https://myaccount.google.com/u/0/yourdata/youtube

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But if you disabled the history and they still had recommendations then they were still storing your history in some capacity. Now they’re probably not doing that.

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@peter No. As said, the recommendations was based on my subscriptions and mostly old videos from the subscriptions.

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Yes. This is the functionality I want if Watch History is off. Chalk one up.

*chalk one very, very minor win up

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Same

I used to use an extension to do something similar, but disabled it when I went and cleared out a bunch

The trend across different interfaces seems to be to crowd it with more junk. Cleaning it up seems like a win, as long as the content is still accessible through other means.

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Came here to say this, hours do i turn search history off?

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@worfamerryman Sorry, just saw your reply now. You can turn off it here: https://myaccount.google.com/u/0/yourdata/youtube

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Thanks! I didn’t think YouTube expected anyone to be excited by this new feature 😂😂

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For my use case this is a positive change (for once). The less data I need to waste loading a Mr. Beast face thumbnail I don’t need the better.

I wonder if it is intended to cause NewPipe to crash, lol. Or to instead fill the page with ads later.

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This is great!

Could you also not show a link to shorts? I could also do without those.

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Yep, those shorts are dumb, and YT is passive aggresive when closing the tray: “ok, we’ll repoen the tray in 30 days”. It’s like “I don’t care you don’t want those, I’ll feed them to you no matter what…” Piss off YT!

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Thank you!

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I use the Hide Youtube-Shorts addon to block those annoying shorts.

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I’d straight up ban obvious dopamine drips like that if I was dictator for a week.

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I don’t understand. Is this supposed to be an incentive to turn on watch history?

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Right? At last I have a way to let my kid use YouTube for school and stuff without the algorithm trying to seize control of her brain.

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I don’t have my watch history off. I use it a lot to remember videos I was watching. It honestly ended up doing a lot for me and I’d rather get recommended content I might enjoy. Just like how Lemmy recommends content to me like how this post ended up at the top of my front page.

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I totally get that. For most people, watch history and relevant recommendations are indeed useful tools.

But if, for some reasons, you want to switch off these tools, the price to pay was a home page full of flashy clickbait miniatures. This terrible home page could have been an incentive to switch history on.

Now, it’s just a minimalistic google-ish search page. It’s an unexpected improvement when they could have done much worse, like a home page autoplaying ad videos, for example.

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Maybe google here is attempting to appeal to both types of people? Why should they truly care if people have watch history off? The end of the day, you are still watching videos on YouTube and that’s what they want.

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Man, I can get a cleaner homepage at the cost of not showing me my history? Seems worth it to me.

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