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Between “Democrats say ‘Vote’” and “Democrats do nothing to fight back,” they didn’t vote in 2016.

This Supreme Court is a result of that inaction.

Congratulations on demonstrating how voter abstention hands the government to Republicans.

Let’s not do that any more.

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We had 8 good years before that and didn’t set up any protections.

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With a heavily divided legislature that only just passed the ACA before it exploded.

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Only Congress can increase the number of Justices on the Supreme Court. We had two years of congressional majority in the last twenty. They focused on healthcare.

How could they have possibly predicted that they’d need to expand and pack the Supreme Court to prevent the next President from becoming a dictator?

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They focused on healthcare.

And they gave us Romneycare

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4 years, or 3 because of Scott Brown. But we just had 2 years. And Obama had 1 year.

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You had the first 2 years of Obama. Obama’s thanks for the ACA was voters not showing up and losing the house of representatives for year 3 and 4. And again for year 5 and 6. And then both the house and Senate in years 7 and 8. So no you didn’t have 8 years with Obama, you had 2 years with Obama because voters did not show up. Congress is what passes laws and has power. They even shut down the freaking government under Obama.

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During the last year of that, Obama was denied the ability to nominate a Supreme Court Justice on an Election Year. Then, Trump got 2 nominees appointed to the SCOTUS, one of which was on an election year.

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Denied as in dems were unable to or chose not to?

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Abby Martin has something to say about that …

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C82jgZOyEtU/

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That’s great. She’s an idealist. How do we abolish the Supreme Court when we can’t even get congressional majority for more than two years every twenty?

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AOC Says She’ll File Articles Of Impeachment Amid SCOTUS ‘Corruption Crisis’

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s threat of impeachment comes after the court ruled on Trump’s immunity argument.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-impeachment-supreme-court_n_6682dd0fe4b05d5a5eb2d70e

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More people (as a percentage of the eligible voting population) voted in 2016 than 2012, and more in 2020 than in 2016.

Finger wagging at people for criticizing the current ruling party (which is sending weapons to a country that is using them to commit genocide) instead of recognizing that we live in an undemocratic system is taking it out on the wrong people. Clinton literally won more votes in the election you’re saying people didn’t vote hard enough in. It’s spitting in the face of everyone whose votes were shat on by the Electoral College to turn around and blame the people who were disenfranchised.

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I get your point, but only 48% of registered Democrats voted in 2016. 25% were abstention due to dislike of the candidate.

Unfortunately, more Democrats need to vote than Republicans, because of the disproportionate weight of Republican states’ electoral votes.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2017/06/01/dislike-of-candidates-or-campaign-issues-was-most-common-reason-for-not-voting-in-2016/

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2018/08/09/an-examination-of-the-2016-electorate-based-on-validated-voters/

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I’m not seeing where in those links it says only 48% of registered Democrats voted? If I’m missing it please point it out. The overall turnout was about 60% of eligible voters, so Democrats pulling in less than that and STILL getting more votes would be shocking.

Getting angry at voters for not voting hard enough after turnout increases every election cycle should illustrate that yelling at people to vote harder isn’t a solution, it’s a stopgap. It doesn’t change that it’s an intentionally undemocratic system, and it doesn’t prevent the exact same “the person with less votes wins” result from happening again.

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25% were abstention due to dislike of the candidate.

Sounds like the problem is with who the DMC puts up, then. If 25% of your own team refuse to participate you’ve got s fucking problem

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Run better candidates to get more votes, it really is that simple. Blaming the voters just makes you look like a tool.

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No one is finger wagging for criticizing. They’re being chastised because they whining to everyone how they’re refusing to vote.

Criticize the fuck out of him. I don’t see anyone giving a shit about that-

FUCKING VOTE ANYWAY.

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Who’s saying they’re refusing to vote?

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FUCKING VOTE ANYWAY.

the really makes me feel like voting, y’know? that really makes me feel like I should go out and vote. that seems like a good strategy

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You’re half right. He won due to the Electoral College, but it was unfortunately legitimate.

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“Whatever the Supreme Court says is legitimate” is a different sort than “systems that don’t deviate from serving their purpose are legitimate”

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This Supreme Court is a direct result of Ruth Bader Ginsberg refusing to retire because ???.

Thanks again DNC. Couldn’t have done a worse job.

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Don’t bring up reality.

Blame Republicans for the Democrats forcing the Supreme Court to be used as a voting carrot.

It’s all the lefties fault that they didn’t vote for corporate overlord Hillary Clinton.

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Well said, but sadly they are a lot of people here that don’t care. Which is ironic, considering the meme.

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Not just voter abstention, but ineffective voting too. Voting 3rd in this election is a surefire way to get trump back in office. If you wanted to stick it to Biden and get someone else, your chance was 4 years ago during the primary.

You’re not voting Biden because you like him, you’re voting Biden because you want to be able to vote for someone else in 2028. That is literally what is at stake here, and it can’t be said loud enough or often enough.

Before the “real left” quisling trolls respond, please tell us two things… Who is the 3rd party candidate you are supporting instead? What are their chances of winning this election?

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your chance was 4 years ago during the primary.

I’m sorry I didn’t realize we elected presidents for 8 year terms?

Edit- just preserving this quote.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

Biden is very much the Democrat presumptive nominee. The time to select someone else was before he was President. The acting president is usually the nominee for their respective party. Also note that the DNC primary nomination is not the presidency.

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Mitch McConnell specifically refused to allow Obama to appoint a justice while there was an election going on.

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That’s true. Had Obama appointed a Justice we’d just have 5-4 rulings instead of the 6-3 we have now. Trump’s immunity would still have passed.

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Not pictured:

  1. Not voting causes fascism to happen faster.

  2. Tankies betraying Anarchists instead of fighting fascism.

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God you guys are as obsessed with tankies as republicans are obsessed with trans people.

First, can you define a tankie? Secondly, can you tell me how many tankies you think live in the US?

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You, apparently.

As did everyone. There’s no study showing that the amount of rapes per soldier by the soviets is higher than that of other nations.

Wow, what an incredibly normal and sane thing to say right at the top of your comment history.

Edit: There’s genocide denial and blaming NATO for Ukraine too. I’m not even slightly surprised. This is what we refer to as “entirely predictable.” Get some fucking help and exit your information silo. I keep my information ecosystem healthy by talking to people IRL, and I recommend you do the same.

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“Tankie is when you bring up that Nazi anti-communist propaganda about rapist soviets isn’t scientific”

“Blaming NATO for the invasion of Ukraine is when you say NATO isn’t good and there should be a European military alliance instead while you condemn primarily the Russian Government for the invasion”

“Genocide denial is when you compare the treatment of minorities in the US and in China”

Grow up

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“Tankies” are largely accelerationists of a few flavors unified by one desire: watch the United States burn to the ground. You shouldn’t take their viewpoint seriously except as adversaries.

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“It’s soooo exhausting to vote one day every two years, so might as well allow as many republicans as possible to become firmly entrenched in every level of government, able to sabotage any attempt to push the inertia in any other direction.”

Here’s a novel idea: you are not just electing one charismatic godking messiah with a magic political wand to the executive office every four years, but an entire system of appointees and employees.

Then there’s Congress, and the Supreme Court, and state governors and state congresses, city mayors and city council, school board, etc.

One side strives for reason and science, the other is scorched earth anti-science anti-reason ignorant hysteria. And you keep giving them enough power to thwart everything.

Tune out and stop watching the infotainment bullshit designed to keep us outraged and polarized every minute of the goddamned day, just show up at the polls each first Tuesday in November and vote Democrat. Once every two years is enough.

At this point, you have enough information to do this with great confidence that it is the correct and sane choice.
Let’s get our collective heads out of the Middle Ages peasant mindset.

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And yet, somehow the DNC is completely powerless while we are watching all of our human rights get washed down the drain and simultaneously watching it become legal to bribe judges.

This is horseshit and the DNC is complicit.

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Once every two years is enough.

No. In a democracy, it should not be “enough” to partake in elections once every two years.

Let’s get our collective heads out of the Middle Ages peasant mindset.

At least the peasants rebelled every once in a while when the lords fucked them over too much.

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When you say once in a while, are you meaning once every few hundred years? If so then I agree and think we are perfectly on track.

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At least the peasants rebelled every once in a while when the lords fucked them over too much.

What do you think the anti-war protests, BLM marches, and Palestinian rights sit-ins were about?

Can’t count the times a popular movement erupts onto the streets and a Democratic Mayor or Governor starts ringing the big “Call in the SWAT teams!” alarm bell to snuff it out.

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Okay, get your guns! If I remember correctly from Project 2025, Trump wants to dispatch the military on the streets to stop the people from revolting against the christofascist dystopia he and his friends want to impose on others. Maybe you can be just like in the FPS games, and survive from health, weapon, and ammunition drops from the soldiers.

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If your military is already so far gone that it will gun down protestors without remorse… why do you want to keep that system alive, again?

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You think we just don’t know about the lower offices? Really?

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Yes.

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That it only becomes a topic of popular discussion once every two years doesn’t mean people are sitting on their hands the rest of the time. I’ve volunteered on local, state and Congressional campaigns, mostly translating campaign website and literature/fliers into Spanish. I’ve done this in the lead up to the 2020 presidential elections, state assembly, city council and mayoral races here. If I talk to people about this stuff outside explicitly political gatherings or a presidential election cycle, I’m an annoying leftist who won’t shut up about politics. When the rest of the country gets off their collective ass and pretends to care, I get “Why haven’t you done anything in between election cycles, you’re not serious,” from the same people who didn’t want to hear about local elections the last few years.

Yeah, it’s pretty exhausting having the same liberals disengage between presidential elections and then pretend to be the arbiters of serious politicking once every 4 years to try and punch left and exclude any actual leftist viewpoints. Thanks for doing your part to keep that liberal tradition going strong.

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Democrats are the fighting back. Primaries are your opportunity to move the needle even further left.

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I remember when the needle only barely started to move toward Bernie before the democratic party super-geniuses swiftly moved in to make a whole bunch of candidates drop to put their full support behind decrepit Biden right before Super Tuesday while funding a PAC to keep Warren in the race to split votes with Bernie while running their media machine in overtime talking over and over about the “Biden miracle” after the endorsement in South Carolina gave Biden his only victory up to that point. You know, South Carolina, which didn’t even end up voting for Biden during the actual presidential election.

Are these the democrats who are fighting back? Well, they’re certainly fighting off the leftists with all their might, that’s for sure.

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Ok, let’s point out how poorly timed this meme is.

The election isn’t until November. It’s July.

We did vote, and we can’t vote for any state or district that we are not in. Democrats won 2020, and avoided total disaster in 2022.

Americans cannot and never have had the ability to vote in SCOTUS.

The last chance the Democrats had at preventing this shit show was under Obamas first term when he could have briefly stacked the courts.

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So put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye, because this is what voting blue no matter who gets you.

We are fucked, and the DNC doesn’t care.

Prove me wrong.

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We didn’t “vote blue no matter who” in 2016 and trump got 3 supreme court picks. If we did Hillary would have gotten them instead and we wouldn’t be here. So you’re literally wrong.

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We absolutely did.

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Americans did have the ability to vote in SCOTUS. it’s called the general election. and they did in 2016, except democratic voters didn’t feel like it. so now you get 6-3 decisions that are dismantling the whole country.

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The base voted. The left even voted, despite the party’s claims. Her result is what happens when you take your victory for granted and insult the demographics you need in swing states.

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Yeah, the FBI director got ahold of Anthony Wiener’s laptop because he’s a fucking awful dirtbag, and at some point his wife had logged into her work email, so IDENTICAL information from The State Department was on it, so FBI big brain decides to make a big ol press conference to reopen the case against Hillary Clinton days before the election just in case maybe there was more than just duplicate information. Except, he already knew it was all duplicate information. Everyone with a brain new it was all duplicate information.

What a brilliant guy. He deserves a lot more blame than he’s ever gotten.

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Blaming voters for not voting hard enough in 2016 is pretty asinine.

Hillary had the most popular votes. But she didn’t do a good job campaigning in the states that mattered and banked too hard on the “i’m not trump” factor.

Blaming the voters takes the blame away from the parties that deserve it more, like Clinton, the DNC, etc.

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God forbid we point out problems and demand reforms while the politicians are asking for our vote. All protests must apparently wait until the president is safely ensconced in office and can ignore us again.

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