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I’ve never seen something as unhinged as Project 2025. I mean it, it sounds like a shitty “evil plan” cooked on 4chan, but it’s fucking real. Insane.

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60 points

It’s not just real it’s their actual political strategy. This isn’t fringe shit, this is what they will do when they take office.

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50 points

it sounds like a shitty “evil plan” cooked on 4chan

4chan has several porn and LGBT boards. this is on conservatism.

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36 points

Conservatives consume tons of porn. They just feel guilt about it afterwards.

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15 points

It’s like one of those idiots came up with this stupid idea and now none of the other morons can call this out because they would have to admit that they are watching porn.

Like the emperor’s new clothes but in politics.

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5 points

They feel guilty about it and lash out on other people to make themselves feel better about it.

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1 point

More like they think everyone should feel guilt about it

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4 points

Yeah, but a lot of conservatives, and by extension fascists, are extremely hypocritical on the surface, except they like to use “hypocrisy” as a tool against their opponents, and by “hypocrisy”, I mean not following the strawman version of your ideology. I personally call this as “rulebending”, they’re manipulating their opponents rules to be even higher and thus choking them with it.

On a deeper level they just want a lot of power, which includes them being above the law, as long as they’re loyal to the dictator/king. If project 2025 succeeds, expect one of them getting caught on live with real CP, maybe even raping a child, then will just go “so what? I can do this, you are not allowed to!”.

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12 points

If we’re talking about American politics in our lifetime, yeah this is tops. But it’s not history’s craziest politics by a long shot

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Hear that everyone, it could be worse

Thanks for the enlightening framing. When they’re rounding up people they don’t like we should tell them it’s ok, it’s been worse

Nobody fucking cares. This isn’t some academic exercise to rank crazy times. This is the very real political strategy of a party about to take power in the US. This view from nowhere shit is so exhausting.

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16 points

You mistake me: I think it’s so bad people should leave if they can, or revolt en masse. I just also like talking about history.

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138 points

Project 2025 wants to:

  • Outlaw pornography
  • Outlaw abortion
  • Outlaw homosexuality
  • Eliminate all major checks on presidential power. Say goodbye to the system of checks and balances
  • Replace many federal workers with those who are loyal only to the president

www.defeatproject2025.org breaks it down by topic, also highly suggest John Oliver’s segment on it

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Well, they’ve already made progress on point 4

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12 points

And two

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5 points

And one! Texas and shit taking first steps by requiring state id verification.

That’s how they do things, just enough to get the foot in the door, move the goalposts and repeat

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Replace many federal workers with those who are loyal only to the president

This is the key point that actually makes all this possible. From the wiki

It proposes reclassifying tens of thousands of merit-based federal civil service workers as political appointees in order to replace them with loyal conservatives to further the objectives of the next Republican president.

“Tens of thousands”. There is absolutely not enough young republicans in the nation to replace that many federal workers. The outcome if they fired them anyways would be orders of magnitude worse than the De-Ba’athification of Iraq. Its declaring class war on Northern Virginia and its a fight the GOP would lose.

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I’m from there too. I could feel myself slowly becoming that type of libertarian shit head growing up until I moved away. Libertarianism is the only way you can rationalize all the bullshit you see around you and still remain in that environment.

It takes a severe level of willful ignorance to work for the MIC. They’re so close to the contradictions at play that whenever you try to interrogate them on those contradictions they just short circuit in a way. Often they’ll repeat some sort of aphorism.

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5 points

Dictatorship ftw

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75 points

Delete terms that deprive of first amendment rights.

Bit of an oxymoron isn’t it?

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29 points

For fascists, freedom of speech equals saying slurs.

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Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

In this case, the law being freedom of speech, the protection being to say what they want and the binding being to prohibit others from curtailing that. Naturally, the push for inclusive language is part of a movement to curtail that freedom and needs to be reversed and pushed back against.

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6 points

That’s called doublespeak

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3 points

Without the oxy

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44 points

No because every conservative either doesn’t know about it or pretends it isn’t as bad as it is, which they rationalize by making sure not to look at it too closely.

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28 points

“It only hurts the people I don’t like” and “I would be exempt from this”.

I have no idea why any immigrant or Hispanic would want this. He’s directly targeting all of them. There are no exceptions, there’s no points you get. This is his stated platform

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22 points

I never thought the leopard would eat my face!

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15 points

But I was one of the good ones!

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17 points

I have a gay friend that loves Trump, I tried to explain this to him but he got mad at me

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5 points

I’m a disabled person, who voted Fidesz in 2010, and my face got eaten by the leopards. Due to the nature of my disability, I won’t receive any help, I’m barred from driving cars thus barred from many local jobs. Those who can are re-examined every few years, and even amputees are body-searched sometimes for “tied-up limbs”, and are preferred to instead seek some job which is specifically made for the disabled, which thanks to local version of ableism, is largely something specialized for the intellectually disabled, and the job descriptions often read like they were lifted from those godawful ableist jokes.

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Devout Christianity is a common reason. Specifically, the kind that believes abortion is murder and is the number 1 topic that can supersede all others. If one candidate vows to outlaw it and the other vows to protect it, the conservative Christian brainwashing machine gets these out-groups to vote against all of their interests to “protect babies”.

Taxes is another I hear. People actually beleive Republicans are fiscally responsible and going to help these out-groups, many of whom are lower middle class, get ahead by reducing tax. Ignore the part where reducing everyone’s taxes increases everyone’s gains, increasing everyone’s budget, and therefore not actually increasing anyone’s purchasing power because the market will adjust sales price higher.

Obviously, this works on the majority demographics too. But they’re closer to the in-group than who you asked about

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Literally just yesterday I posted about it in my family’s political group chat and my older sister said, and I quote:

“even though I lean left, I’m actually glad that conservatives have a playbook! Why? because Trump’s first term presidential transition (2017) was totally bungled… he needs a list of people that he can appoint from, so that these agencies don’t just fall apart… Don’t kid yourself, Biden’s team and Obama’s team and the democrats overall definitely have their own playbook and their list of potential appointees. They just don’t have to crowdsource theirs!”

cue insane Charlie Kelly screams

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Narrator: She did not actually lean left, but instead very far right.

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17 points

She just likes weed.

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27 points

my family’s political group chat

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One member got upset that we were discussing politics in the family group chat so much in 2020 (read: we were bashing Donald Trump and his fucking idiocy too much) and insisted we move the conversation elsewhere

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5 points

would it be better to have two trump terms, back to back, or to make a biden sandwich and have a break between the terms?

i worry that if trump comes back from the dead he might do crazier shit than if he was just re-elected and kept eating mcdonalds at the white house.

no way to know for sure, unless whoever built the universe made two copies just to test this out

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Hate to crowdsource appointees in my democracy

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Is your sister Roseanne Barr, what the fuck is she saying

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