Is there some connection to the nation?

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Marxism-Leninism?

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I’d assumed it was a reference to machine learning.

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Same

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I am the walrus?

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I think you’re thinking of Lennon-McCartney

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Shut the fuck up Donny! V.I. Lenin. Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov!

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What’s Walters problem, Dude?

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Hey! No you’re not. This is the walrus.

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It’s hard to imagine someone’s been active on Lemmy for a year and didn’t know that…

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I had no idea about this, and I’ve been here for just over a year. Also, keep in mind which community this is.

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I don’t think I’ve ever questioned it before. There’s so many servers I don’t bother to know the history behind them all.

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I literally thought it was for militant, because that’s how they come off over there if you’re not 100% in lockstep with them.

Like they were fighting the man or something.

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No, theyre marxist-leninists. Basically, unironic communists.

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who are, ironically, not communist

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Marx wasnt a communist? Ive heard a lot of “not true communism” takes, but thats a new one.

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Probably because you haven’t read much on the subject. Marxist theory speculated on how societies and economies could transition into communism. He and others created the philosophy and Concepts involving it. But were not communist strictly speaking. At least not in anything other than the state of the individual.

Engles, and Lenin mistakenly thought that by replacing the authority and power of the wealthy with their own people. That they themselves would not fall to the corruption of power. And eventually over time the authoritarian state would somehow magically wither and die. Leaving them with a classless stateless society. Keep that in mind that is important for understanding whether something is communist or not.

Was Russia classless or stateless? No Russia was a state. And they had plenty of different classes. ML never eliminated that. In fact all the current Russian oligarchs have direct ties back to the political Elite of Soviet russia. And instead of transitioning into a communist Society they’ve transitioned into fascism.

Now let’s look at china. Is China a state? Yes. Not communist then. Are there different classes of people in china? Yes not communist then. Their claim on even socialism is somewhat tenuous at best. But they are definitely not communist. And at this rate will never transition into communism. Xi Jinping has moved into the Emperor’s Palace and is all but Emperor in name only at this point. He and his wealthy friends will never relinquish power to transition to communism. They will stay as they are until he dies. And then there will be a power vacuum. There may be some in fighting but someone will replace him and China will continue on until there there is another Revolution to replace the failed Communist Revolution that put them in power. Are they transition into open fascism as well.

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Lenin isn’t Marxism. Stalin isn’t Marxism. Mao isn’t Marxism. Tankies aren’t Marxism. Marx would have thought nothing good of China and Russia. Marxist Leninists idolize Mao and Stalin. They think police states are the bees’ knees

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I think the meaning is that the Lemmy.ml fascists aren’t actually communist.

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“What is certain is that if they are Marxists, then I myself am not a Marxist”

– Karl Marx

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Of course Marx wasn’t a communist. He was a Marxist. Duh.

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How do you not know? He literally wrote a book about not to be a communist called The MaNOfest of the ComunNOst Party.

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Communism is a form of government based on Marxist ideas about how economic power works. But the two are not one and the same thing. You could say that Naziism is specific movement that was based on racism. But we all know the two words have distinct meanings and are not entirely interchangeable, intimate though their relationship may be.

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A lot of it isn’t actually communists, but a facade for spreading authoritarian propaganda.

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This is true. As long as a country declares itself to be economically left, they will defend every single authoritarian action and human rights abuse. Doesn’t matter if the reality is that the state capitalist country produces hundreds of billionaires. Any claim of leftist economics and they will defend anything it does. It’s clear they love defending authoritarianism more than they like leftist economics.

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they love defending authoritarianism more than they like leftist economics.

They’re not paid to like leftist economics.

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🙄 there are communist countries that are not Russia or China, just like there are capitalist countries that aren’t the United States.

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Of course, and neither Russia nor China are communist.

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Mali didn’t claim their country TLD for a long time, some dude named Johannes Zuurbier decided to just hand out domains to anyone who wanted them, for gratis unless your traffic was super high (and even then asked to only cover the traffic costs). He did this in his spare time for the community. This all further appealed to Marxist-Lenists.

Now it’s managed by the government of Mali, they still give them out for gratis/very cheap.

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That’s some lore

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And I think they used to be free.

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Can’t remember the specifics but the Mali government was allowing free (or super cheap) use for awhile so that was the reason.

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