I mean, tarot is fucking stupid as well.
No, tarot is a fantastic card game : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tarot_card_games&diffonly=true
Cartomancy using a tarot game cards is stupid though.
Holy shit, Tarot was a game all this time? Time to buy a pack and get some people for a game night!
There’s also a really really old type of rpg similar to DnD that can be played with a rare kind of tarot deck called a Minchiate (97 card deck)
May I suggest you use the french tarot rules ? If there is a French community near you, you may find players among them.
Here are the rules translated in English : https://www.pagat.com/tarot/frtarot.html
Atheist utilitarian technology professional here. I read tarot. Not because I believe anything mystical is coming through the cards. They just happen to be a very rich and rounded set of symbology to lay out and use to talk through a topic. I have never had anyone walk away from one of my readings without saying “that was more interesting than I thought it was going to be.” Of course my style is very interactive and I involve them a lot as we go. Of course others out there take an oracular approach that’s utter horseshit.
You didn’t understand. You seem to think that belief in magic or future reading or some other stuff is necessary to play tarot, but that’s not true.
You can use the cards instead as a brainstorming tool that helps you direct your thinking into new avenues that you haven’t considered so far. No bullshit necessary.
“I play therapist by telling my clients they are the decrepit goblin that stumbled into the stinky swamp and ask them if they want to try to get out of it by using the enchanted axe or call upon the great dragon to lift them up.”
15 years sober here. Alcohol is not an option for me.
The important thing is you have discovered this and are comfortable with that knowledge. That in and of itself is a big deal.
yes, the lesson here was self-discovery-- as difficult a lesson as that was.
i admit that i’ve been through a similar one myself. i quit heroin 20 years ago.
Did religion get you there? I don’t recall anything about it in church. In fact they SERVED alcohol at my church.
Baptists forbid all alcohol, they’re a pretty significant percentage of Christians in the US.
Congratulations, sincerely.
I’ve been on the world since before I can remember. It used to be pretty fun, honestly, but I can tell it’s just eating my soul away bit by bit. Unless something changes soon there won’t be anything left.
Tap for /s
Just kidding, I hate this place. I really am happy for you though. It’s not easy.
I understand. I understand that means mo fo me!
Joking aside, I need to quit, also. Tomorrow, I’ll do it tomorrow.
You SHOULD fear alcohol and cigarettes, but from scientific reasons. Tarot is also unaceptable for a scientific mind.
Tarot cards have cool artwork on them, and they are as harmful as a RNG, or cootie catchers.
Artwork is perfectly fine, but shaping your view about the reality and directing your life based on tarot is pure superstition and stupidity.
It’s a random number generator. It’s shuffled cards put in random order to tell a story, or focus someone on their own thoughts without distractions of self doubt. To bring order to a chaotic existence. Not all mysticism is superstition. Not all rituals are pointless, many attempt to bring people to a liminal state, an attitude of being in-between, standing at the threshold. We can keep the useful elements of these things and discard the rest. No one needs to base there life around anything they don’t like.
“Using a framing device to interpret your feelings is unacceptable to a scientific mind”
Okay square.
If you don’t try to predict your life with Tarot, it can be a fun story creativity task.
You SHOULD fear alcohol
I think fearing it is going a bit overboard. Moderation is the key.
Science says there is no healthy dose of alcohol - no moderation, but complete absence.
Healthy for what, exactly? Because it certainly isn’t incompatible with a long, good, moderately healthy life.
I’m guessing if you want to perform at peak or reduce your risk of cancer as much as humanly possible, then sure. But that’s probably the goal of a minority.
I mean tarot is still superstitious nonsense, but so are religions.
I like tarot because it’s like „death; the tower of doom; the swamp of famine” and that means that you’re gonna have a chill week or something
FWIW, tarot decks were used for card playing before they were used for divining money from the gullible
divining money from the gullible
Thank you for phrasing it this way. Superstitious nonsense is all fun and games until someone loses a buck.
Tarot / psychics / etc. being used for personal and financial gain by preying on the vulnerable is far too common and needs to be called out for what it is. People who peddle this hokum for personal and financial gain are no better than TV preachers.
The card that portends doom is the Tower, usually. There are as many interpretations of Tarot as there are folks that read it, but Death usually means “change.”
Tarot is largely harmless; it’s odd how upset folks on Lemmy get over it. It’s mostly middle aged women and queer men who do it for fun. I use it as a way of organizing my thoughts sometimes - I own a few decks which I enjoy as art pieces and brainstorming tools. I’ll read for friends sometimes and I’m pretty open about the fact that I’m mostly leaning on what the cards do in the Binding of Isaac.
It doesn’t mean you’re gonna have a chill week.
It means literally nothing.
“You drew a royal flush, congratulations. That means the local mayor will give you an enema. Since it’s in the suit of clubs, that means it’ll happen on Tuesday afternoon. That’ll be $30, thanks. Go get flushed, retard.”
There’s a bunch of card games you can play with tarot decks. People should mention this more so that they become more popular again. The people using them for non game reasons is the same as if they were using a Yu-Gi-Oh deck for it.
PS: the standard 52 deck is also a kind of tarot deck.
No, we use it as a reframing device. You basically point a random story generator at currently relevant facets of your life. This helps you to see them from a new perspective, which can get you unstuck when you have reasoned yourself into a corner.
There’s absolutely no belief in magic necessary to use it.
tbf, even without religion, coffee still keeps me up at night
