How would these be causing crashes? The ID.4 has a few cruise control buttons on the left side of the steering wheel. They are push buttons, but you can swipe the speed up or down to change it to the next 5 MPH. The resume button is not capacitive as the article states, you have to push it. Once again, this seems like people not wanting to take responsibility for their own lack of attention while driving and blaming it on the tech in the vehicle.
According to the article there is a “resume” button for the cruise control.
No idea because I don’t own one of these, but if it’s true that’s insane.
I’ve driven a lot of cars from a lot of different manufacturers, and have never encountered a resume button that works how the article describes, where it will accelerate you to whatever the last cruise control speed was.
that works how the article describes, where it will accelerate you to whatever the last cruise control speed was.
That’s what the resume function does normally?
That is:
- You switch on and activate cruise control
- You’ve tripped it while active by pressing the brake
At this point cruise control is still “hot” and pressing resume will turn the cruise control back on, usually with a speed interlock so you can’t activate it at a dead stop.
If the car has “one pedal driving” then inadvertent activation could be pretty surprising, and would require you to lift your foot off the accelerator and hit the brakes. Coupled with the rocket-ship acceleration of most EVs this could easily cause an accident I guess.
Never been in a car with such a feature, as it seems inherently dangerous to me.
Every car I’ve been in, when you accidentally disengage the cruise, you just hit cruise again and it re-engages at whatever speed you slowed down to, then you adjust back to what you want.
Having the car suddenly accelerate without deliberate input just doesn’t seem wise.
I mean they literally were talking about multiple ways. Someone could hit a stereo control and spike volume while turning the wheel which causes a huge break in concentration leading to an accident. That is absolutely possible and could be extremely dangerous in the right situation.
The stereo causing someone to crash the car? That’s just Darwin at work.
There are falsehoods in the article. Go test drive an ID.4. I have a sneaking suspicion that this is yet another EV hit piece.
Not really at all. I believe your view is wrong. Just because you believe your high level of intellect makes it impossible for you, you may be forgetting the legion of morons and old people out there driving. Is 100% entirely possible someone could be turning a corner and accidentally does something to cause a distraction and run someone over because they instantly look down away from the road.
Regardless of the persons intelligence, it absolutely can and almost guaranteed has happened numerous times over humans driving careers. The button style just makes these situations easier to take place.
Edit - this isn’t a hit piece on EVs, touch capacitive controls suck in general in cars. Physical buttons are always better, easier to press and locate, and do what you need without drawing your attention from driving.
Lol, this sort of shit also comes in ICE vehicles. The only reason this is more predominant in EVs is because some braindead MBAs think EVs need to somehow be more “futuristic” and tactile buttons are too old-school for them. How is it difficult to fathom that in certain situations this can lead to accidents?
Wait a minute. There are SWIPE CONTROLS on the steering wheel that adjust the cruise control speed by 5 mph increments? And we don’t think that’s problematic? I’m either misunderstanding the controls or not sure how that seems like a good idea at all
Sure, I totally can’t see someone swiping on their steering wheel, say, shuffling across it to… I dunno, turn it? And either jetting forward because they just bumped it from 55 to 75 over the course of a turn, or suddenly slowing, probably without brake lights. Swipe on a steering wheel has got to be the worst car idea I’ve heard in a while, and I’ve heard some bad ideas.
Again, unless I’m misunderstanding the controls, which I am open to the possibility of. Please, if this is the case, let me know.
I’ve got a ID4 and they are all capacitive buttons. It makes a tactile vibration when engaged.
I hate my car. Nice to drive, but awful to use.
Ban all touch screens in cars.
Lots of cars got crossed from my list when shopping for a used one this year, no buttons meant no purchase. got a Kia stinger, fast car, looks good, good price, all physical buttons
It is absolutely insane to treat capacitive buttons as a good thing in cars at this time.
The only capacitive input I will accept in my next car is the infotainment, CarPlay is brilliant.
Controls for lights, speed, wipers, climate, volume, play/pause, and anything else that you need to use when driving should have a physical control.
I hate having capacitive buttons for temperature in my car, not to mention that to activate the seat heater, I have to go into a menu in the infotainment.
#bringbackbuttons
I think the Hummer EV is a dangerous and wasteful piece of junk. But one thing it does well is the interior controls. There’s a bunch of switches on the dash under near the infotainment screen, and there’s little symbols above them for what they do. Tapping a switch can change its context.
So you get the flexibility of infotainment controls, but the UX of actual buttons.
Too bad it’s in a Hummer EV.
I’ve got a few capacitive buttons in my car, none of them critical, but I’d gladly replace them with the physical buttons in the lower tier version of that car…
Like, how is this considered the nicer option? Hell, I think they’re actually cheaper for the manufacturer than proper buttons at this point…
But sure, I really want to have to try three times to turn the vented seats on because I don’t hit the exact right spot on the pad, only to accidentally switch it to the heated seats in triple digit weather while reaching for the AC knob (which actually is physical, thankfully)
Of course they are cheaper, thats why they put them everywhere instead of regular buttons.
Yeah, this stuff is always cheaper. Companies, like Tesla, have convinced a few stupid people that it’s “premium” but if you look at all the cheapest cars coming to market all they have is a touch screen, like Tesla. It’s the absolute cheapest option and it sucks.
Car companies won’t be happy until cars become yearly upgrade items like phone companies have convinced us to do with mobile phones
A well-designed button can be incredibly satisfying. Just ask anyone who owns a mechanical keyboard.
