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thank you harris and dems. this is much better than the “he’s weird” approach. ratchet up the pressure on the fascism aspect, all the way up, and keep it there

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96 points

Why not both? “Weird” gets politically disengaged people to notice, then follow up with how a Trump or Republican facist presidency would be dangerous.

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31 points

It also doesn’t get as pilloried as Hillary’s “deplorables”, even if she was right about that.

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12 points

Hilary’s pillory would make a good title for a book about the 2016 election.

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19 points

good point. they have a lot of people of all ages who need to be addressed in their own language

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Trump is not bussin, no cap

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60 points

I am so glad Biden stepped down and Harris is actually running the campaign the Dems should have been running since 2016.

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42 points

I think Biden was the best person to run in 2020.

His prior experience with the office + familiarity with world leaders is what allowed him to actually work from day one and also get NATO back together.

Remember that trump didn’t hand the power peacefully, was blocking intelligence reports and our relationship with our allies was in the shitter.

Putin started to preparing to invade Ukraine in April 2021 (or at least that’s when or intelligence noticed it), putin was certain that Biden won’t be able to reunite West on time.

All other 2020 candidates would need some time ramp up as they did not have the same experience.

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18 points

I am talking about Dems as a whole and the campaigns they should have run, not which candidates were running.

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16 points

Biden was a good guy to have on cleanup duty. I think one of the main reasons why the Obama presidency was such a disappointment is that he had to handle cleanup duty at the same time as he was trying to push things forward.

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There’s a multi-pronged approach here now.

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15 points

The “He’s weird” is the equivalent of “Doesn’t she look tired” in Doctor Who, when the Doctor decides to end a bad politician’s career. That sentence, as it starts spreading, destroys her career.

This is what they aim for, and it’s meant for MAGAs, to crack them open.

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123 points

Also love that she’s factually calling him out as a criminal.

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36 points

I was hoping for ‘convicted felon’, but I’ll take what I can get.

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17 points

He’s just going to call her “lyin’” or “crooked” or something like that, so she might as well call him what he is…a criminal.

It’s that kind of tit-for-tat that you wouldn’t get from Joe Biden, who was worried about looking polite and respectable. It just wound up making him look weak.

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I think the most streamlined nickname the lab-coat wearing neurons in his swollen, cancerous amygdala could come up with is “laffin’” and he had to fucking explain to the sheep he’s trying to herd to he wanted it spelled.

Flailing. Bigly.

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2 points

I think he wants to make sure his followers use the correct “urban” spelling to help the dog whistle spread.

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89 points

I’ll tell you all a secret:

Win this for us all and we can do almost the same thing. In four years we could make voting easier. We could collectively push to end gerrymandering and implement a fair and true foundation for a stronger and better system. If Trump and his cronies truly believe they can take down everything that has been built, I bet we can begin building a better tomorrow through the action of each of us as individuals, working together towards a more positive future.

Let’s pay to deliver our future and not get robbed to repeat the past.

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14 points

Yeah, but don’t stop at Trump. Get the fuckers out of the House/Senate too. Vote against Trump-lite mayors, , councils, and civil positions. This doesn’t mean always vote D, but stop letting insane candidates win via voter apathy, whatever the riding.

Where you can, make a difference yourself. Run for HOA, school board, etc yourselves and get the power-tripping fucktards out.

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I bet we can begin building a better tomorrow through the action of each of us as individuals

I’ll bet we can do it by working together as groups.

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No OP, but yes, volunteer and get involved too!

Here’s one site to find volunteer opportunities around you (for campaign related opportunities and also things like climate action there)

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3 points

…working together towards a more positive future.

See? Teamwork!

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72 points

I’m sure Republicans are all going on about how he’s “just joking”. Sure, that obviously was a joke but it’s not like conservatives don’t want exactly this – they always hide behind “it was just a joke maaaannn” when the heinous shit they say causes a negative reaction

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68 points

“it’s just a joke man… unless you’re cool with it. In which case yeah we’re totally serious”

Kinda like joking about having a threesome with your significant other.

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29 points

Yup, “haha only joking. Unless…?”

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“I’m just Kiddin’ like Jason… unless you gon’ do it.”
-Cornell Haynes, Jr. (2002)

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It wasn’t a joke, which we know because they doubled down after failing the 2020 electiom coup.

Yes, they hide behind joking when they say heinous shit like mocking the military or the disabled. They also hide behind it when when they are open about wanting a dictatorship.

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10 points

Yes this is exactly what I meant. It was said in a manner that they can just claim it was a joke, even when it’s clearly not

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20 points

It doesn’t help that Trump’s speeches are full of semi-coherent rambling and tangential sentence fragments, and that his entire style has always been to speak entirely in ridiculous hyperbole. It makes it easier for people to interpret statements in whatever way best fits their point of view, because you just get used to filling in the context and reducing his absurd claims down to a vague generality.

I’m sure Trump defenders will argue that he was saying “you won’t have to vote” only meant that the next election won’t have such high stakes because Trump will fix America’s problems and yada yada yada.

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6 points

I’m sure Trump defenders will argue that he was saying “you won’t have to vote” only meant that the next election won’t have such high stakes because Trump will fix America’s problems and yada yada yada.

I despise the guy but I’m not sure how to say this without sounding like I support him…I honestly think this IS what I think he meant. The dude can’t put together coherent sentences. Words just kind of fall out of his mouth.

With that said, eliminating elections is definitely what his puppet masters want so it’s kind of a moot point. This is their long game and Trump is just a piece of the puzzle.

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11 points

He wanted to be a “day-one dictator.” I think you may be a bit too charitable here.

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2 points

I honestly think this IS what I think he meant.

Never get inside a conservative’s mind if you come out with a loser defeatism attitude. He might try to claim that as his fall back cover story when a journalist presses him on it, but it’s not what he meant at all. The most generous interpretation is “I don’t care who wins after me because I just want to win to stay out of jail”. The most likely interpretation is "Pay attention to me. Pay attention to me. Pay attention to me. " If he wins he will be saying shit like that every single day for 4 years like an abusive spouse just for the attention. But he absolutely will try to end democratic elections if he think he can get away with it.

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14 points

“He’s just joking”

Uhhh, Maybe we shouldn’t have a joker as president?? Maybe vagueness is bad???

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2 points

Unfunny Donald

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7 points

Their interpretation is that he was trying to motivate a bunch of old Christians to come out and vote for him so he can fix all the problems with America, and then they can go back to not voting because it’ll all be fixed.

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10 points

Christians voting for Trump…sigh.

Look, I’m atheist. But…if you’re claiming to be Christian and voting for Trump, what exactly are you worshiping?

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7 points

Bigotry.

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5 points

Moloch

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4 points

Thanks for sharing this interpretation. Assuming for a moment that was his actual intent in saying that (I watched the clip several times and I simply could not decipher his actual intent), I would suggest that it should still be essentially campaign-ending to say something so closely resembling a call for the end of elections once you are elected. People should be so repulsed by the idea that it makes all candidates feel obliged to speak carefully and clearly enough to avoid even the insinuation of saying such things.

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People are always trying to make excuses for Sex Offender Trump and they are always wrong. He actual intent is (1) to appeal to the neofascist movement and (2) to force you to pay attention to him like an abusive spouse. If elected Sex Offender Trump will say shit like that every single day to make you pay attention to him and it will continually escalate throughout his 4 years to try to condition people to let him stay in power.

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3 points

Ah right, that does sort of make sense

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5 points

Tom Cotton already said “he’s joking”

You can set your watch to this shit

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3 points

Refute anyone that says that “he’s joking.” He’s not.

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43 points

It’s weird that I knew all this but it’s way more chilling to have Harris’ campaign tell us.

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No. To me it’s because no other campaign going against Trump acknowledged any of trumps treasonous rhetoric and acted like it was just some silly goof they were going against. For 8 years they let this man lie and fire up a base and make every problem the American is facing the lefts fault. The news media ate it and doubled down. Now half of the Republicans thinks democrats are children eating demons and that they are the enemy destroying America. It didn’t help that Biden’s campaign was “I’m not the other guy” without bringing any substantive relief. Harris coming with receipts and bringing up the straight up treason from Trump’s campaign is what needed to be happening day 1. Kamala’s policy is going to be important, but right now the biggest danger to America’s future isn’t student debt relief or universal Healthcare. It’s fascism. And we’re there at fascism. The nazi party isn’t going away. Burn it down, bring up how it does not belong in America, pacify the people by giving them substance to live and not be forced to raise a family in debt from grocery shopping.

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They’ve realized that ignoring the face-eating-leopard doesn’t work. Neither does giving it pets and the occasional soy-face.

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