227 points

He’ll do a debate if it’s in his safe space. Snowflake.

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96 points

I think this is bad news tbh. Harris can be as capable as she wants, but if the broadcaster doesnt stop Trump from a endless ramble or cut off his mic if he escalates to intolerable levels of behaviour, then this could end badly.

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49 points

Don’t give Fox News respect. Start talking shit about it right now. Call this what it is, a scared old weird man who will only debate Harris on a “news” network currently paying billions for lying to everyone about the last election. Harris will treat Trump and the “journalists” playing moderators like children which is how we should’ve been treating them for years. Talking to them like adults validates their lies and bullshit.

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19 points

Harris should call them out. “I said a debate on a news source, not some weird entertainment channel. Might as well have the weather channel moderate the debate!”

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3 points

Pretty sure Fox is run by a scared old weird man.

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37 points

Hopefully it’s outside.

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24 points

Underhanded. I like it.

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136 points

This is a weird way to say “Trump backs out of debating Harris on ABC”.

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NYT are fools for using that headline. Their journalists, or editor, obscured the facts with that one. “Updated” headline (not joking):

Trump Cancels a Debate With Harris on ABC News and Pitches One With Fox News Instead

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20 points

Haha I see that new headline. ‘tegrity.

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14 points

The biggest issue is many people will have only seen the first headline and not the update. They got inaccurate information and it won’t be corrected, and the NYT is to blame.

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“Cancels” is the wrong verb again. ABC can cancel it, Trump can only decide not to show. ABC and Kamala can go ahead and have a debate with the audience or even put a cardboard cut out in his place and play random quotes he’s made and let Kamala disagree with them. ABC would get views and advertising revenue.

The right neutral verb phrase there is “backs out of”. The one I would pick is “shirks” or “fears”

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115 points

In what sense has he agreed something if no one else involved knows about it? I think the right verb here is ‘suggests’.

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He made a post saying that’s the “deal”. In a way it’s a brave brazen way to try and get a venue change. Harris would have to basically insult Fox News and their entire viewership to avoid looking like she’s walking away.

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Which (insulting fox and their viewers) she should do regardless, tbh

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3 points

If she can go on Fox News and score a couple points against him it’ll go very well for her though; going into the proverbial lions den and coming out the other side

No (current) Harris voters are watching Fox News right now, she only stands to gain votes if she handles herself.

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That’s a quick way to lose an election. Almost like calling people deplorable. That worked great didn’t it?

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8 points

Brave isn’t the right word. Brazen is.

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3 points

Yeah I can’t always with the words.

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6 points

Again, it’s not a deal if you don’t have agreement. That’s not a deal, it’s an offer.

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3 points

I know that and you know that. But do the people who just watch Sinclair News know that?

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1 point

That’s what Trump is doing to ABC right now

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2 points

And she’s calling him out in a way I couldn’t see happening before. I’m glad to see it.

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According to Mr. Trump’s post on his social media site, the debate is to take place at a to-be-determined location in Pennsylvania, the must-win battleground state that could help decide the election. Fox News anchors Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum would moderate.

It was unclear early Saturday if Ms. Harris had agreed to the debate and its terms. Representatives for her campaign did not respond to requests for comment. A spokeswoman for Fox News also did not respond to questions.

I think it’s worth waiting to see if Harris has actually agreed to this, in the extremely unlikely chance that Trump lied about a thing.

Also, pretty funny that even if that’s the case, Trump still needs a month to prepare and it has to be in his safe space network.

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he is only ‘agreeing’ with the voice inside his head bouncing between the three brain cells. trying to play games and force harris into it.

i highly doubt harris would agree to those terms. nfw.

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3 points

I’m sorry but you’re wrong. Two brain cells fighting for third place.

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The Harris campaign on Saturday declined to commit to the Fox News debate and said it was still planning on a Sept. 10 debate hosted by ABC.

“Donald Trump is running scared and trying to back out of the debate he already agreed to and running straight to Fox News to bail him out. He needs to stop playing games and show up to the debate he already committed to on Sept. 10,”

I think that’s pretty clear.

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10 points

Pleassssseeeee stick to this Harris!! Man we can only hope.

I’m glad she called it exactly for what it was. Too bad Magoos will only see this as she wants her supposed safe space. :(

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13 points

Would be funny to have it at the same place he got shot at last time.

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11 points

Have it at the 4 Seasons (Total Landscaping parking lot).

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3 points

That’s even better, nice one.

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2 points

I truly can’t believe this timeline. That moment can’t have been real. Yet it was.

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1 point

Well, Harris does have a pre-existing commitment coming up soon. Surprised Trump didn’t challenge her to debate during that.

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1 point

I would love if both Fox News and the Harris campaign came back and were like “wtf no one ever told us about this. Old dude with dementia is just making shit up again.”

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91 points

only if harris somehow sneaks a bullhorn/megaphone onto the stage so she can still make sure those fuckers hear her when her mic “malfunctions”.

fox deserves no respect.

You know how fascists are always projecting; the way he treats normal news agencies tells us all we need to know - it’s exactly how we SHOULD be treating his pet agencies.

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