cross-posted from: https://lazysoci.al/post/16752258

At this rate, he’s gonna crash the whole company.

90 points

I will never buy a Tesla. Ever. I would buy an EV, sure, but never a Tesla.

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21 points

If someone gave me a Tesla, I’d sell it for cash to a teenager.

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4 points

They’re way too fast and heavy for a teenager. Scrap them for parts and EV convert a classic car that deserves to live on.

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23 points

What, you hate teenagers or something?

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25 points

I could afford to get one and I would like to have an EV but I will not buy a Tesla also. The Twitter douche is part of my reasoning but also Tesla cars are THE WORST in regard to privacy as they collect a shit ton of data and upload it all the time. Mozilla rated Tesla at the very bottom of their chart of “from Bad to Worst” ranking cars on privacy.

https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/articles/its-official-cars-are-the-worst-product-category-we-have-ever-reviewed-for-privacy/

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7 points

I mean it’s also a trash car with terrible UX design which should be your main issue with it, data collection doesn’t matter when you crash your car because you need a touch screen for everything.

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1 point

It would have to pull a Craftsman. “Same logo, same market segment, not even a little bit of the actual former company.”

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43 points

And the tesla market share dropped below 50% in the US EV market.

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38 points

Kia and Volkswagen are massively eating away at the Tesla share, because under Musk’s leadership, Tesla doesn’t have a Unique Selling Point any more. Other networks are catching up in terms of charging speed and even then Tesla sell access. Their other USP was FSD and Musk isn’t investing enough in it. All this while his products are taking a hit due to his public image. What’s crazy though, if he delivered the new Roadster or the Truck, he would’ve increased market-share.

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6 points

The truck was never going to increase market share, it’s too divisive, dangerous, and poorly built. Plus slow and expensive to build (even to the low quality standards Tesla is becoming infamous for).

The sports cars is for who exactly? Those don’t increase market share, it’s just a prestige car. Also a big part of the sports car market wants sound, and doesn’t drive them daily either. When it’s a weekend toy, so being electrified has a smaller positive impact, and likely will never even out the material production pollution vs usage pollution.

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6 points

What if the truck was “normal”? I mean, for now, they’re still selling a lot of the low poly ones, but something sized like a Ranger/Colorado or Maverick and styled more like the R1T seems like a way smarter move for them.

Imagine an alternate history where he never bought Twitter or started a SuperPAC and Tesla made a normal truck, the new Roadster, and was close to releasing the Model 2.

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26 points

Probably has a lot to do with mainstream car makers catching up, although Musk is definitely becoming a liability to the company.

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35 points

I think that’s the biggest part. Tesla gained it’s huge market share by having the right product at the right time with the right company image. Tesla should have been focusing on fixing their quality issues, and should have either booted Musk or chained a PR person to his side. Instead they put out the Cybertruck, which is divisive at best, and have a CEO who seems to be doing everything he can to destroy the good will of their core market.

It was inevitable that the mainstream manufacturers would catch up.

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10 points

Seeing a lot of ev6/9 and ionics around me lately. Hyundai/Kia picked a really good time to expand their lineup.

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16 points

Yeah, they wasted time on cars like the Model X, semi and Cybertruck, all needlessly complicated vanity projects that took resources away from the Model 3 and possibly a Model 2. Not to mention the FSD that’s been 2 years away for like a decade now.

If they stuck to their initial roadmap they would probably be in a way better position, although without Musk I don’t know if they would’ve been able to juice the stock the way they have now. His cult is basically keeping the stock price irrationality high.

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8 points

Why does the Elon sunscreen have sexdoll mouth? Wrong answers only.

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40 points

well, your CEO told me to go fuck myself so I’m kinda busy doing just that to go buying your stainless coffin on wheels.

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7 points

If he’s going to sell his Tesla shares to fund Xitter and his crusade to pull the world to the far right, that could be its best hope. If, say, Toyota or Ford or someone pick up Tesla, cherry-pick its best technology, add their own expertise in actually making reliable cars and keep the marque as their electric vehicle line. They can offload the Cybertruck to Hummer or some other toxic-masculinity-oriented brand.

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2 points

Hummer is owned by GM and at current is their only offering for an electric truck sadly.

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3 points

Send it to Hyundai or a Chinese brand, Ford can’t be trusted and Toyota are still obsessed with ICE.

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