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What irks me most is the kids content. That should have been a separate site altogether and it’s ridiculous that ‘non-kids’ content gets more strictly regulated for fear they might hear a swear word. Especially considering how much weird shit gets pushed at kids intentionally that youtube doesn’t appear to care about (looking at you elsa-gate).

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Elsa gate is why stuff gets restricted so aggressively nowadays.

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17 points

What is Elsa gate?

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You can go too deep on this one and find people who probably think it’s a conspiracy or something lol, but the gist is that YouTube used to recommend very very odd videos to kids. People picked up on this and made odd videos. It became like a feedback loop I guess. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsagate I just found the Wikipedia article and I think it does a good job of giving facts about it.

Edit: What I mean by think it is a conspiracy is that you might find people who think it was some sort of orchestrated act to influence children. This was around the time of the pizza gate stuff for contex. I phrased that poorly. I meant people probably have conspiracy theories about the why part of it happening, but it was actually a thing that happened.

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9 points

some weird algorithmic videos people posted because kids would lap that shit up, like pregnant spiderman shit.

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9 points

The regulation is never meant to “protect” kids. It’s the advertisers, it’s always and only the advertisers.

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Also videos that weren’t intended for kids but superficially looked like they were got involuntarily flagged as such and had their comments removed.

A separate site would have been a much better solution.

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5 points

fucking hate that shit, i came to this episode of a tv show i used to watch so i could TALK ABOUT IT IN THE COMMENTS

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58 points

No demonetisation? The REAL old YouTube didn’t have monetization to begin with!

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5 points

Even then they posted videos online to show otherrs

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3 points

I wish we had YouTube alternatives other than just political ones (rumble)

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3 points

Floatplane?

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3 points

I recently heard of odysee and was surprised to find out that some big channels like Veritasium or Fireship seem to already be on there

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But it’s owned by google

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The only way we’ll get Peertube mass-adopted is by monetizing is it

P.S monetisation != ads

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At least integrating PeerTube with something like LiberaPay or Open Collective would help somewhat with creator monetization. The platform itself still needs to make money somehow, which is pretty complicated with large video files and many concurrent streams in high resolution and bitrate. I think PeerTube shouldn’t try to hide the fact that it’s based on the BitTorrent protocol, maybe that way more people would download torrent files for videos and seed them on their servers or personal machines using a simple torrent client, instead of requiring them to spin up a full PeerTube instance and setting up federation.

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What PeerTube is BT based 😮 Based on what you are saying, can you just seed the normal torrent files to help, or would one need their own PT instance?

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What PeerTube is BT based

Yes it is. But it seems like they try to hide it from the user for some reason. This is the process for getting a .torrent file from PeerTube. When on the video page, click on the three dots, then click on Download and select torrent file instead of direct download. You’ll get a download link like this: https://tilvids.com/download/torrents/3869f4ed-ba37-42a9-9876-22ed8f364a9a-1080-hls.torrent

This is the torrent for this video btw: https://tilvids.com/w/dAeCyhu6MArtNvm6iCQD9D

I think they should make the torrent option much more prominent, and also add support for Magnet links, which are easier and more convenient to share than .torrent files.

can you just seed the normal torrent files to help

As far as I know, yes.

When you watch a video using the PeerTube web UI, you can see the number of peers in the bottom right corner, next to the fullscreen button. If you hover over it, you see how much you streamed from the PeerTube server, and how much from peers. Apparently the PeerTube web UI also acts as a torrent seed (presumably using WebTorrent), but it never worked for me (probably because my browser is always behind a VPN).

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Ig that’s why Content moderation in peertube is harder and just deleting videos cant be garunteed

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Or maybe making it stable with easy content discovery. Right now it is impossible to find content on it and a lot of the content is low quality to begin with.

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I weirdly get some videos recommended to my by very small channels (like 30-60 views per video). I asked several people around me but none of them seem to be getting that kind of recommendations.

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I kind of like getting those recommendations its usually either a fairly normal person or the most unhinged shit.

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A while back YT rejigged it’s algorithm to give weight to channels with small subscriber amounts

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I get the same for like half a year, recently I get live streams with about 5 viewers recommended.

While I feel like recommendations got a bit better in the last two years they are still nowhere near where they’ve been 10 years ago.

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2 points

Been catching a LOT of those watching shorts, been digging it.

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2 points

Same, on desktop at least, even though I often klick the no fuck you button

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I do, but have set ReVanced to filter those suggestions out.

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I get them too. It’s quitr refreshing to see some low subscriber ytbers

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it recommends things that you’d watch, here’s some videos from my recommendations:

are you only looking for videos via the trending tab?

though most of the other points are valid, I just wanted to point this one out because it seems obviously wrong, I remember that I used to never see low-view videos when I first used youtube

some of the points I agree with, I am not a youtube shill
  • shorts should never have been added, it is obvious that youtube was just chasing trends again when it was added
  • no dislikes: youtube removes a good feature for no (good) reason (their ego); they did the same for:
    • community captions, making disabled viewers stuck with the shitty auto-generated captions while youtube partnered with captioning companies so that they could sell youtubers captioning services
    • new annotations, followed by removing the old ones after telling people that they would not be deleted
  • demonetizing youtubers for swearing, this is likely a reaction to the repeated elsagate scandals, where ad companies pulled their ads, hurting youtube’s revenue, (and therefore causing less money towards creators) in my opinion this is likely youtube trying to keep up a facade towards ad companies despite:
  • not being able to solve the many elsagate videos that continue to exist on their platform, especially in languages other than english
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