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Mainstream media benefits from another trump presidency. Trump drives ratings. Ratings means sponsors, sponsors mean revenue, revenue means shares going up.

They are corporations, not services. It’s illegal for them to not do what helps their shareholders.

Mainstream media benefits from another trump presidency.

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It’s illegal for them to not do what helps their shareholders.

This has been repeatedly shown false. They have a fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders, not a legal one. As Tim Apple once told an investor asking about gains on their push for environmental greenness as a company, he told them that if all they want is for the number to go up they should get out of the stock.

Cook then offered his own bottom line to Danhof, or any other critic, one which perfectly sums up his belief that social and political and moral leadership are not antithetical to running a business. “If that’s a hard line for you,” Cook continued, “then you should get out of the stock.”

https://alearningaday.blog/2016/03/12/tim-cook-on-roi

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Corporations do not have to prioritize profit above everything. The old case where that was in question is quite nuanced and worth reading about.

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Businesses also have wide latitude in how they interpret profit mandate. They’re allowed to make purely gut-driven predictions and take huge risks with little evidence on the grounds that a payoff is on the horizon.

Tim Cook could blandly assert that environmental greenness does increase profits and then just hand wave in some fuzzy math about hypothetical waste management or non-renewable material costs or public sentiment. And who could argue with him over a 20 year time horizon?

You can say whatever you want as a CEO and most people will reflexively trust you simply because you’re in a position of authority.

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They ARE services. They’re not services run for the benefit of the public.

I think we all got a little messed up by the few years that journalism had a bit of credibility. For the vast vast vast majority of humans on earth all forms of mass communication have been propaganda for those in power… I mean look at the Catholic Church for the best modern example

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Which few years are you referring to?

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I’m gonna posit a guess of around 1930 through the late 90’s when the internet started eating everyone’s lunch for “free”.

(I am not a news historian and this is purely a guess.)

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Yea it’s now an election of the old school vs new school and the passing of the torch. Boomers are going down kicking and screaming

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I make my livin’ off the evenin’ news Just give me somethin’, somethin’ I can use

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I feel that would only fuel the misinformation machine with more fake news. I’d be interested in knowing your rationale and how you feel it would be beneficial to anybody except the news organizations.

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You’re replying to a song lyric

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I’m not sure Trump actually has any idea what’s going on around him. His nonsense just doesn’t get caught by the equally stupid base so he looks like he’s playing them. The only people that would support him are the dumbest people imaginable so it’s like saying I’m a skilled athelete based solely on the fact that I can absolutely obliterate my competition…which just so happens to be a bunch of toddlers.

This isn’t to say he’s not a massive threat and that the base won’t vote him in if Americans don’t vote against him but let’s not give him any undue credit here.

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Democrats don’t want to create any conservative enthusiasm, so they tend to be very vague and cagey with regard to what happened to Trump next.

Republicans think harsh words juice their base, so they’re a lot more hot blooded with their propositions and predictions.

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People love it when you lose. Give us dirty laundry.

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It’s a low bar. If we’re now judging candidates in comparison to Trump then we’re in trouble.

Trump isn’t the standard. He’s an anomaly, and we should aim way higher.

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Lol, name the last Republican President that wasn’t a moron.

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Roosevelt

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https://ictnews.org/archive/theodore-roosevelt-the-only-good-indians-are-the-dead-indians

Morality wise, the last good Republican was Grant.

For intelligence it’s Nixon imo. Tricky Dick didn’t get where he was by being a moron, evil isn’t stupid.

Eisenhower very definitely wasn’t stupid either.

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Bush Sr. Then Nixon before that.

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Nixon was an idiot, so was Sr.

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I don’t agree. A scale has to be useful for separating what you’re measuring. Any scale that puts Kamala as “low” is like trying to measure the size of a banana and an orange in kilometers, they’ll both measure “low”. There is no decent measure by which Trump is anything but scum. Kamala (or just about anyone who isn’t a Trump voter) ranks so far above Trump that they can’t be anything under “excellent” on a scale designed to meaningfully compare these candidates.

Obviously the scale we should be using for our politicians SHOULD be better, and that’s because we should have produced better candidates. With the candidates we have, we don’t get to use a better scale because in doing so we’ll be playing right into Republican narrative of “they’re both the same” or Kamala is “low” quality so vote for Trump.

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Well, Trump did make a ton of people madly follow him.
It may be leading the world to ruin, but it is still leading.

I’d put the impact rating as “high”.
The direction being undesirable.

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Which pundits actually said that? Most of what I’ve read, people were saying she did pretty well. But you sure got people here believing this meme.

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Fox news. Daily beast. Daily Mail. etc. The usual suspects. But no matter what she said or did, they were going to bash her. If she were the 2nd coming they would say she was a “trans ultra-left authoritarian”.

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The winner of a political debate is whoever the audience likes more. It unfortunately has nothing to do with being a reasonable person.

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It’s fucking absurd and embarrassing that crowd participation is even permitted in televised presidential debates.

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This is the folly of representative democracy. It inevitably becomes less about policy and instead a popularity contest between figureheads.

Representative democracy has run its course, and the problems it solved (the fact that it’s not practical for everyone to attend places of government from far away) have all but been solved by technology. Bring on direct democracy.

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