242 points

If you are in an industry where an emergency at 2 am cannot wait until 0900 (or whenever shift starts in the morning), fucking pay a swing shift to be there. Or fairly compensate your employees for calls off the clock. Either way, stop expecting free labor from your employees. And if your business can’t afford to exist without fairly compensating those who work for it, then your business should not exist.

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59 points

I feel like this is a rare and very sane view. Businesses went over the edge at some point. No idea when though.

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38 points

It trickled down over the years

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13 points

Down their pant legs.

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10 points

The only thing that’s trickled out of Reaganomics successfully.

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34 points

They didn’t go over the edge, people had to fight and die to get us to the edge we’re on now. They were actually worse in the past if you can actually believe it.

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7 points

Businesses are the ones who put child in coal mines. They will take everything we can. Only together do we get any rights or protections

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20 points

There was a factory in NYC that locked the doors so people wouldn’t take breaks outside. A fire happened and people died because of this. Afterwards they…did it again. Regulations are written in blood and usually because anyone expecting a business to do the right thing, especially a larger one, is so bewilderingly stupid that I’m shocked that their shriveled up brain can even keep their heart beating when they go to sleep at night.

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11 points

As someone else pointed out. The triangle shirtwaist factory fire.

But as another example of businesses doing shitty things that led to people dying. The Iroquois Theater fire in Chicago. They didn’t want poor people changing seats to nicer ones so locked the doors to those areas when the play started and they bribed people to not finish their fire safety equipment but still get approved to open. Hundreds died.

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4 points

It started in the 1980s with massive deregulation. I wonder who might have done that 🧐

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23 points

Sounds like dude doesn’t know about the concept of teams paid to be on-call 24/7.

I’m sure those are exempt. If a well-managed critical server goes down at 2am, you can be sure some employee is part of an on-call team for just such an event.

That’s not with this about. This is about bugging people to work when they are off the clock.

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32 points

This is about bugging people to work when they are off the clock.

And that’s exactly what Kevin is advocating for. He wants the benefits of an on-call team without having to pay for an on-call team.

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9 points

Oh he knows. He just wants the benefit without the cost.

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11 points

I’m extremely lucky. I’m a condominium superintendent, and my current job I am on call, but only for emergencies. There’s a security team that will handle most things but call me if it’s actually an emergency, residents don’t actually call me directly after hours.

I get maybe one real emergency call every other month or less and they rarely take very long to deal with.

And my compensation is that I get a free 2 bedroom condo, in which I don’t pay rent, utilities, or even my tv or internet bill. And I’m part of a union.

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1 point

What would be a real condo emergency? Like a pipe burst? Doesn’t sound like something the super could handle without a plumber coming.

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2 points

Yeah usually floods from a pipe or such. Generally I can at least isolate the area and shut off water to the Apartment causing the flood until the plumbers can come and repair things. Or like I may get a call that the garage gate is stuck and I gotta call an emergency repair or something

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85 points

Why does anyone think this guy is some kind of business expert? Why is he propped up by CNBC all the time (and apparently FOX) as if his opinions are at all relevant?

He got rich by using VC money to prop up a real dog of a software company, cooked the books, then sold it to Mattel in what is regarded as one of the worst business deals of all time

Now he makes all his money like Trump did, licensing his brand to sad companies and getting appearence fees. He sells mutual funds with his name on them even though he’s not licensed, because he has nothing to do with them. He ran for Conservative party leadership, then dropped out because he couldn’t be bothered to (or is incapable of) learning French, even though he’s from Montreal.

Business people with real wealth don’t spend all their time on TV or sell Cameo videos from a fake Shark Tank set, willing to endorse any shady business for a few thousand dollars.

Just ignore this guy, he’s the worst.

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16 points

But he looks so tender, juicy, and marbled. How can we ignore such a tasty morsel when so many have so little, and so few so much? We must waste not.

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7 points

Sounds kind of like he’s a cartoon of a businessman that the media pretends is real and relevant for the sake of generating engaging content.

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2 points

He appeared as a fake testimonial on a crypto investing learning site ad and that was point I realized dude was just a washed up reality TV celebrity and literally nothing more lol.

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Kevin is bad, but I really hated it when Shark Tank brought on the Vitamin Water guy. That shit is worthless. Overpriced water containing trace amounts of vitamins that probably cost $0.02/unit. If the free market worked anything like libertarians say, it would have been laughed out of the room.

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1 point

But he looks so tender, juicy, and marbled. How can we ignore such a tasty morsel when so many have so little, and so few so much? We must waste not.

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70 points

I have a craving for a billionaire rn and this dude soundin tasty

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23 points

The secret is thyme. Low and slow of course, 225 degrees until it reaches about 198, then pull it, wrap it, and let it sit for an hour so the fat can melt right into the meat. Your guests will declare you a culinary genius.

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8 points

any recipe that calls for pork

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7 points

Now we just need a sommelier to recommend a good wine pairing from his wine cellar

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7 points

If I learned anything from the movies, it’s gonna be a chianti.

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2 points

Mmmm pulled long-pork

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63 points

If employees start ignoring their boss’s calls, texts, and emails outside of work hours, an after-hours emergency might have to wait until the next business day, which O’Leary finds unacceptable.

Did this fucking fascist consider hiring more staff and going 24/7? How is it the problem of salaried workers that their boss is too fucking cheap to hire enough people to get the level of support that he wants?

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22 points

Entitlement

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49 points

Who dreams this up?

Nobody. Nobody dreamt it up. They are just remembering the hard reality of the early 90’s and the before times.

You know, before everyone was connected and online 24/7/365. Before “online” meant anything.

When you left your 9-5 job, drove home listening to the radio, because you didn’t have anything else to listen to, and got home to dinner on the table because you didn’t need your spouse to work for a living to make ends meet, in your home that you were able to purchase, and food that wasn’t largely artificial.

The phone would ring during dinner, and it would just keep ringing, because you’re spending time eating with your family. There was no answering machine, so it would just ring and ring.

And if nobody ever answered it, they couldn’t tell you to get back to the office because some emergency happened.

Maybe you went to the park, maybe you were out to dinner with the Mrs… Maybe you just didn’t care enough to pick up the phone. Anything could have happened.

Unlike today, where we’re bombarded by marketing and notifications constantly. All of which are demanding that you address them ASAP. Everything is an emergency, so put down your “three ingredients away from plastic” dinner, and pick up your master, and obey.

I am all out of bubble gum.

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