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I don’t hate the Europeans for having fair working conditions. I hate the rich assholes that make my home country such a shitty place to live and work in.

It’s time to emulate the french and set the place on fire if they don’t start treating us fair.

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T’inquiète* or Ne t’en fais pas* would have been a better translation for Don’t worry/No worries than “Pas grave”

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17 points

Or you can start with unions…

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37 points

And how do you think unions come about? Historically it’s by setting things on fire.

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5 points

By actually talking to your coworkers about unionization, which is scarier for many of us than fantasies of an anonymous crowd.

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11 points

We need Syndicates and Worker/Consumer cooperatives as an end goal. Unions aren’t the finish line and are only a bandaid over capital ownership.

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3 points

Markets aren’t the finish line either, to be fair. Those retain the mechanisms that bring about inequality.

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7 points

why not both?

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4 points

Or fires…

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9 points

The protests and strikes they keep quashing are the alternative to fires, destruction, and violence. It’s a social agreement the factory and warehouse owners want us to have forgotten.

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Only for them to be destroyed in another 20 years by the rich

Nah. Break out the guillotines, it worked well for the French.

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71 points

30 days paid vacation + bank holidays + regional holidays + 0.5 days of vacation each on Christmas and new years eve + generally not having to work on weekends + generally not having to work longer than 8 hours a day + public transport ticket paid by the company.

Cannot complain.

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22 points

Cannot complain.

Spotted the German.

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2 points

I’m going for UK, specifically Scotland.

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I have:

14 fixed holidays.

31 vacation days.

35 hours workweek.

Summertime hours reduction (from 35 to 32 hours).

Fight for it, and force your countries and employers to apply those conditions, because I assure you, they are good.

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Summertime hours reduction (from 35 to 32 hours).

lol these are my regular hours (webdev in Germany with a 4-day work week)

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8 points

What’s the name of your employer again?

Seriously, those are really good conditions, I’m glad you are aware of that.

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I cheated a little. As I’m employed by a public organization of the Spanish government. But it’s true that we achieved these conditions because we have massive Unions here in the public sector. We are currently threatening with a strike if the remove remote work (as they are threatening to remove it).

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11 points

Nice, good luck with your fight, remote work is the future

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I’m in the USA and I get 3 weeks paid vacation, 10 paid holidays, and 2 “personal days” which are also PTO, and more sick time than I am ever able to use up. I think I have over 200 hours of sick leave PTO accrued.

This is not a basic entry-level job though, it’s after climbing the career ladder for years. It would be much nicer for our country’s folks if everyone was allowed as much PTO by all jobs.

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I’m an American working in the u.s. for a company based in Germany. They have soooo many more days off than us. They’re out at least 3 months of the year before taking additional PTO. They like to bring their European values of work to the u s. But unfortunately that doesn’t mean that I get any more off time. I save all year from January to December and if I never took any of it my PTO amounts to 3 weeks. If you’re an American they have different standards for you because american work culture means getting fucked and hating your life lol.

That being said I still feel like the days I get are generous and I am happy and grateful. But that’s only because I used to get nothing at my old job. It’s only crappy if I compare to others which is the thief of joy and whatnot.

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The magic word is: Unions. Without them, we would absolutely not have a minimum of 24 days per year by law. Get out there and unionize.

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Unfortunately Unions get corrupted easy.

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Why is that?

I might be based coming from Norway where we have a very well regulated system with unions on both sides of the table. But I don’t see our unions as something easily corruptable at all.

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8 points

I work for a company based in the uk, and I get off around thanksgiving until the start of the year. I horde my pto though.

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5 points

Your first sentence sounds like the Zeiss add on youtube that has been after me several times a day for months now

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Lol, I have seen that too.

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5 points

3 months… Are you including weekends?

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30 points

My wife got her first pay check last week at her new job in a US school district. I was certain something was wrong when it came in, but the pay stub did nothing to show the breakdown of hours, rate, etc. She finally got a response today - and I’ve learned that school breaks are NOT PTO. She gets zero PTO she can take during the school year, and while frustrating not to be able to choose when you take your time off, I assumed that was just because she gets the summer off. But apparently she gets no PTO AND takes 71 days out of the year off without pay, effectively. So they do you the favor of paying you over 12 months, but you still only get paid for hours worked. The rate of pay seemed like it would be a pay raise on the surface, but I never anticipated needing to dock it by 20%.

Zero PTO. Just the perks of American life.

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Hourly wages for school teachers? I’m worried I might know the response, but does prep work outside school hours, in breaks etc. count as hours worked?

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She’s not a teacher, shes in the library. But - she is allowed absolutely zero ot. She’s already had her time card adjusted on days that she worked early or late to match her scheduled hours. And they only pay her for 7 hours a day, but it’s an 8 hour work day and she hasn’t once had the time to take a hour for lunch.

What even IS the recourse when it’s not a comproration, but the government that is stealing your wages? 🤷 I think I’m more upset about it all than she is, because the quality of life is way higher than her last job. And so I’ll just keep it all to myself.

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my wife is an educator, and she teaches summer classes to cover the gap.

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