Incase anyone tells you that lemmy.ml is not a tankie instance.

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Only 30 days?

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I’m shocked it wasn’t a permaban, honestly.

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They’re being reasonable 😏

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What happened in Libya according to them?

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Poor Gaddafi was attacked by the corrupt NATO, to the disgust of the rest of the world (except that it was resolution by the UN security council).

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Thanks for the reminder, happy cake day

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All the happy cake days to you! What will you do with your time without them? ;) EDIT: i.e., without lemmy.ml

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except that it was resolution by the UN security council

You mean the Security Council over which Russia has veto power? That UN Security Council?

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Russia’s decision to abstain in that vote happened under the notoriously “liberal” Medvedev and was a point of heated disagreement between him and Putin. It was arguably the breaking point for Putin deciding he needed to hold onto power indefinitely or else (in his view) a liberal president would let NATO do whatever they want, with Russia presumably being next on the chopping block

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Except there is strong evidence that Western powers (predominantly France, the UK and US) created the fiction of Gaddafi being a global supervillain and then used NATO forces to enact regime change in Libya, under the pretext of “preventing civilian casualties”. In fact, the real objective was to secure Libyan oil reserves and open the country up to western markets.

NATO is often used an extension of Western foreign policy. To pretend it is solely a benevolent peace keeper is just as simplistic and naïve as saying that everything the West does is pure evil.

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Interesting, thanks

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Gaddafi was a supervillian. Almost literally:

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It also wasn’t NATO who directly killed him. His own citizens did, and they weren’t kind about how they did it.

NATO also wants stable oil reserves. Both these things can be true.

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During Arab Spring, the West was (naively) hoping that Libyans would rise against Gaddafi and create a democraty. When he saw what was happening, he threatened to a) flood Europe with migrants and b) expose Sarkozy’s illegal campaign funds.

a) made him a political adversary, b) made them launch a military campaign to topple him

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there is strong evidence propaganda.

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You people seriously hate history and facts, don’t you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103

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One air campaign in Libya (permitted by UNSCR 1973) > fourteen Russian invasions

Checkmate, Westoids

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Look, NATO is bad, that’s why it’s absolutely necessary for anti-imperialism purposes that Russia invades its neighbors before they can get into NATO!

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Which works about as good as rhe war on terror

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“Bro just one more invasion bro I swear this time it’ll really solve terrorism Western Imperialism™ for good!”

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Problem is, Russia is technically in the west.

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I am still amazed at the 12 dimensional chess thought process of invading a country that didn’t join NATO to discourage joining NATO. All that socialized vodka in the maternity ward must be getting out of hand.

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This is logic amped up to 11 right here, folks.

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