I can’t be the only one who finds this stuff Just the slightest bit revolting, right? Like … Wow. I’m at a loss for words

93 points

This is a big reason why inceldom has risen imo. Not because of the content, but because of groups of men all reinforcing this behavior.

Now, I won’t lie, roleplay or imagination is one thing, but going online and normalizing this behavior in public is a very very different. Thing, and changes and normalizes that it’s okay to do around real women. Thoughts and behaviors change, and then they wonder why real actual women want nothing to do with them.

In essence, hey if impregnation is your kink, you do you. You talk that way in public? Pretty weird bro.

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This is a big reason why inceldom has risen imo

I haven’t seen it nearly this bad until this year. This is the worst year I’ve ever seen for it, and Hoyo games are by far the worst

hey if impregnation is your kink, you do you

It seems like it’s worse than that. I’ve seen people making extremely inappropriate comments about young characters. For example in Zenless Zone Zero subreddit, there are people that post pictures of the young characters that look like children, Piper and a few others that I don’t recall off the top of my head. But they are half naked and fan art of them in extremely suggestive positions. Borderline pedophilia but it’s a made up fictional character so they claim it doesn’t count and it’s perfectly fine. Such a strange view on reality

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Not to disagree with anything you’re saying, but I hate the phrase “borderline pedophillia.” Either they’re sexualizing children or not. It’s like saying “non-consensual sex.” There’s no such thing. It’s rape or consensual sex.

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I hate the phrase “borderline pedophillia.” Either they’re sexualizing children or not.

They hide behind the fact that character age isn’t expressly stated anywhere, so it’s technically not pedo behavior since it’s unknown what age it is. But me personally, I think they’re underage.

Example from Zenless subreddit. Piper is a character that looks like she’s anywhere from 10 to 15 years of age, and people are posting her half naked.

Here’s another post with a very one-sided discussion about NSFW art for characters who are clearly minors, in which the community basically downvotes anyone who tries to voice their opinion that creating erotica and other NSFW art for minors and adolescents is wrong. Truly disgusting behavior, and I’m in disbelief that there’s a gaming community out there today like this…

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That’s mostly down to a legal thing if I remember? And last time I read about it, related to a non-english language and in that case I have fuck all Idea how to judge whether splitting rape into two words for it makes sense or not. Sounds wrong to me, but I’m not someone to judge that.

But yeah other than that, agreed.

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There IS a difference between reality and fantasy. We see it all the time.

There is an actual fetish for consesual non consent aka rape fantasy/roleplay. If we allow that people routinely engage in fake rape, then why are you surprised if anything else is sexualized. People are weird.

But is it not just as disturbing to you when people glorify violence and gore such as the Saw franchise?

I do not understand the attraction to these things either, but I dont think its healthy to pretend that reality and fantasy cant be separated.

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and that’s the real issue I see, is that in inceldom, the line between fantasy and reality is so blurred that they don’t understand the social norms. If r*pe kink is your thing, and your partner and you like to do it, I think that’s fine. personally I don’t like it, but it’s you in your private home and it’s your thing, I’m not going to be the one to say not to.

The key though is that there’s a hard line between fantasy and reality, and if you start thinking that real, live women want that, that 's a huge red line you crossed, and same with most other things.

Idk, like you said people are weird, and we desperately try to fit them into boxes, and when it comes to sex that’s nearly impossible. The key is knowing that what you’re into at home is very different than what you do to real people. I’m rambling a bit, but consent is really the thing. Real people need to consent, unlike online fantasies.

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I haven’t seen it nearly this bad until this year. This is the worst year I’ve ever seen for it, and Hoyo games are by far the worst

Congrats for lasting this far. I quit the anime world years ago when it became clear that that shit was becoming the norm, and 95% of products specifically catered to that demographic.

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This, by far, was the biggest factor for me quitting anime, but also, it hasn’t evolved or changed at all since the 2000s. It’s all the same tired tropes and stereotypes. Throw in a few dashes of misogyny and bam, top anime apparently.

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Not because of the content, but because of groups of men all reinforcing this behavior.

I genuinely know more women than men that act like this. I can’t say you’re entirely wrong about the problems with normalizing behaviour and the like, but simplifying it to “men are disgusting and know nothing of 'real, actual women” when real, actual women are sometimes equally disgusting is, well concerning.

This particular brand of behaviour is usually about rejection of social norms far more than it is ever about the objectification of women. People who have been rejected by society like to take back the power by rejecting the norms of that society.

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8 points

That’s not what incels are but go off

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Are you really surprised these gachas attract tons of horny teenage coomers with waifu baiting as a business model?

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The characters all look underage af too

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Games that are in the business of selling anime girls end up attracting a certain demographic. And as the developers know who their audience is and double down on catering to that crowd, this kind of behavior becomes increasingly normalized over time.

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Exhibit A: the hilariously horny official trailer for Jane Doe

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There are feet in the camera’s face within… eight seconds. I’m surprised, but I can’t say I’m shocked.

Aside from that, it is a curious decision to make the first person camera a woman. I thought their target audience would be young men? It’s certainly a larger potential audience than lesbians, although hey, not like I mind that choice ;3

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8 points

Thanks I just busted to this

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Man, am I glad I grew up with less horny games. Like Tomb raider, Metroid or Shantae.

The real reason is probably that we said comparable stuff, just as whispers and not written in an anonymous forum. And we weren’t even egged on by forum culture or our games to be as horny as possible, the former drives engagement while the ladder drives sales.

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I was going to say, there were definitely horny games but you wouldn’t talk about them in the open.

Honestly genshin and honkai aren’t even that bad. You want a bad one, look at nikke. Ass and titties jiggle physics: the game.

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I would argue Shantae is definitely horny, the games have some innuendo jokes specially the DSi one.

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Yeah, I was just pulling your leg. Being a goofy goober. Why would you read this very specific list of games and think I was earnest?

Tomb raider had infinitely many rumours about a nude-cheat because boys were so thirsting about Lara Croft, while Metroid and Shantae reward fast playthroughs with bikini pics.

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5 points

I remember vividly the dead or alive dimensions demo.
My first contact with boob physics.

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3 points

turn around 120 times while standing in the kitchen sink and you’ll unlock the nude skin !! 8yo me believed

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3 points

And 3D boobs in the 3DS.

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7 points

Do they hit people with the ladder if they don’t buy?

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Some do it just to meme or be funny. Especially ones that make these kinds of posts.

The ones you really have to worry about are the ones that get mad when you mention something about a character that is not accurate. They will publicly execute you. Worry about those ones.

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I don’t know the context of the meme but i guess she doesn’t look like that in the game or something? They did their waifu dirty? These jokes seem quite harmless and light.

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That’s the thing, the whole waifu crap.

Like people talk about it as if they’re real persons and treat them as such. It’s borderline psychotic.

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The thing abaout “waifu culture” is that most people do not actually think or act like fictional anime characters are real people. They do it to troll, or be funny, or act stupid, whatever. Like circlejerk subreddits or other online boards where there is some joke that gets perpetuated that everyone in the community thinks is hilarious but everyone outside thinks is stupid.

Yes, there are a tiny few that do, but not a significant number of people actually think that way.

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In the game, she supposedly has well defined muscles, and slightly larger breasts I guess? I haven’t looked at her enough in the game to really remember it by heart.

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