133 points

I love that the EU is cracking down on tech, but I also wish the US government could get in on that awesome rake.

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20 points

why would they want to anger their global surveillance channels?

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10 points

Not to mention their donors

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You misspelled โ€˜ownersโ€™

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103 points

Google: $2.7 billion

Apple: $14.34 billion

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Google 2024 Revenue: $328.28B

Apple 2024 Revenue: $385.60B

Iโ€™m sure theyโ€™ll behave in the future thanks to these Big finesโ€ฆ

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140 points

Revenue doesnโ€™t equal profit. Appleโ€™s 2023 net profit was 96b, so a 14b fine is a substantial portion of their overall profits (~15%).

Of course, theyโ€™re not hurting by any stretch of the imagination, 82b is still a STUPID amount of money, but we should be getting the facts and numbers correct

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29 points

Revenue doesnโ€™t equal profit but many companies are using multiple schemes to show that they are not profitable. So we also need to check the revenue. A company can just increase the CEO salary to eat up all the profit.

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11 points

Still less than the lowest tax bracket in the US

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11 points

And in Appleโ€™s case theyโ€™re just being forced to pay back taxes, not even any fines. Theyโ€™re basically undoing an illegal tax break from Ireland, which has spent $10 million in legal fees to fight against receiving it. Technically the Irish government is the one that fucked up here. Apple will have to pay and move forward paying a normal tax rate.

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8 points

Iโ€™m sure fines are under โ€œother expensesโ€ in their financialsโ€ฆ

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2 points

The sad part of this is it is just a fine, a cost of doing the business. Iโ€™m sure they have already collected more money by their monopoly than these fines.

What we need to give them is punishment. Not financial ones.

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3 points

For everything else, thereโ€™s Mastercard

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72 points

Iโ€™ve said it before, Iโ€™ll say it every time itโ€™s proven again: US consumers get more protection from tech company overreach from EU courts than our own. Our agencies need to have big gnarly angelfish teeth, not this wrist slapping โ€œas long as you share the profits itโ€™s basically legalโ€ nonsense.

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6 points

That would require political system changes like making party anonymous donations illegal, putting them all on registers and setting max legal amount to $1000 per entity or something realistic. Then change preference system. The list goes on. Itโ€™s a system setup to bias corporate and โ€œspecialโ€ (rich) interest.

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Honestly starting with the re-overturning of โ€œmoney is peopleโ€ also known as Citizens United would be a good start. This act more or less made it so money is considered free speech which allowed any type of Corporation to spend as much as they want on political groups, it was spearheaded as a thing that the country needed to avoid blocking things such as smear campaigning your opponent. But what it actually did was more or less remove the $5,000 limit that packs and super packs had on financing campaigns and and political donations, because all the Super PAC has to do now is say they arenโ€™t politically aligned with a party and they can just funnel as much money into that party as they like, which obviously puts any party that remotely goes against profit(in most cases the democratic party because they generally want more social styled programs) at a significant disadvantage

Not to mention the federal committees that were intentionally implemented to stop corruption that happened within the government because we knew that we couldnโ€™t be trusted to deal with important things such as communication and Airline Administration are being gutted by the same system that was supposed to protect them. While everyoneโ€™s using the excuse of well theyโ€™re not doing anything so why have them. Theyโ€™re not doing anything because they canโ€™t, hell the FCC has tried and the court system is saying they donโ€™t have the right to rule over the department that theyโ€™re a committee over. Itโ€™s ridiculous

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0 points

There is an opinion that this is what allows corporate and other power to exist legally. Otherwise itโ€™d just all go Al Capone again, not vanish nor diminish.

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67 points

Iโ€™m glad that corporations are actually receiving fines that are commensurate with their earnings and scale. Hopefully itโ€™s enough to get them to not do this shit.

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10 points

This is still a footnote on their quarterly reports. These are multi trillion companies.

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5 points

You say that like Iโ€™m unaware - maybe I should needlessly remind you that most of these fines are generally in the millions of dollars. A step in the right direction is not a bad thing.

Regardless, Iโ€™m not sure shareholders will think of it that way if the anti-trust practices continue and the fines accrue. The EU likes to be punitive when their orders are ignored.

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15 points

google is fighting the eu and the ftc at the same time lol

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