Ethical
AI tools aren’t inherently unethical, and even the ones that use models with data provenance concerns (e.g., a tool that uses Stable Diffusion models) aren’t any less ethical than many other things that we never think twice about. They certainly aren’t any less ethical than tools that use Google services (Google Analytics, Firebase, etc).
There are ethical concerns with many AI tools and with the creation of AI models. More importantly, there are ethical concerns with certain uses of AI tools. For example, I think that it is unethical for a company to reduce the number of artists they hire / commission because of AI. It’s unethical to create nonconsensual deepfakes, whether for pornography, propaganda, or fraud.
Environmentally sustainable
At least people are making efforts to improve sustainability. https://hbr.org/2024/07/the-uneven-distribution-of-ais-environmental-impacts
That said, while AI does have energy a lot of the comments I’ve read about AI’s energy usage are flat out wrong.
Great things
Depends on whom you ask, but “Great” is such a subjective adjective here that it doesn’t make sense to consider it one way or the other.
things that people want
Obviously people want the things that AI tools create. If they didn’t, they wouldn’t use them.
well-meaning
Excuse me, Sam Altman is a stand-up guy and I will not have you besmirching his name /s
Honestly my main complaint with this line is the implication that the people behind non-AI tools are any more well-meaning. I’m sure some are, but I can say the same with regard to AI. And in either case, the engineers and testers and project managers and everyone actually implementing the technology and trying to earn a paycheck? They’re well-meaning, for the most part.
Speak for yourself, ai generating porn is the greatest thing since sliced bread
You’re into naked people with more than the usual number of fingers? Not trying to kink shame…
Until someone starts generating porn of you and your family members. It’s already a huge problem that I’m surprised nobody talks about.
Ah! I thought you guys wanted cheap, fast, and most importantly interpretable cell state determination from single cell sequencing data. My bad.
Lemmy
Edit: Oh shit. I didn’t realize this whole community is just for this… oh well.
People leaving pro-AI comments in !fuck_ai@lemmy.world lmao
People said the same things about the Internet when it came out and calculators before that
Yeah and people also said the same thing about NFTs and now they barely exist. If there was a use for AI outside of very specific things I’d agree with you. But the uses for AI are very basic when comparing it to the Internet.
Nobody said that about nfts. Maybe s couple of foolish kids and shysters but nobody ever took them seriously.
The world is a wildly different place now, and the people developing them were headed by people motivated by reasons other than extracting as much money out of the world at any cost.
This is not nearly as comparable.
Beyond that, very few people had an issue with AI as fuzzy logic and machine learning. Those techniques were already in wide use all over the place to great success.
The term has been co-opted by the generative, largely LLM folks to oversell the product they are offering as having some form of intelligence. They then pivot to marketing it as a solution to the problem of having to pay people to talk, write, or create visual or audio media.
Generally, people aren’t against using AI to simulate countless permutations of motorcycle frame designs to help discover the most optimal one. They’re against wholesale reduction in soft skill and art/content creation jobs by replacing people with tools that are definitively not fit to task.
Pushback against non-generative AI, such as self-driving cars, is general fatigue at being sold something not fit to task and being told that calling it out is being against a hypothetical future.
the people developing them were headed by people motivated by reasons other than extracting as much money out of the world at any cost.
I mean… they were developing an information tool that could survive a nuclear strike. One of the ironies of the modern internet is how its become so heavily centralized and interdependent that it no longer fulfills any of the original functions of the system.
Pushback against non-generative AI, such as self-driving cars, is general fatigue at being sold something not fit to task and being told that calling it out is being against a hypothetical future.
One could argue the same of the original internet. The Web1 tools were largely decentralized and difficult to navigate, but robust and resilient in the face of regional outages. Web2 went the opposite direction, engaging in heavy centralization under a handful of mega-firms and their Walled Garden of services. The promise of Web3 was supposed to be a return to fully decentralized network, but it just ended up being even more boutique fee-for-service Walled Gardens.
Modern internet is horribly expensive, inefficient, and vulnerable to outages at an international scale. Convenience has become obligation (always-on DRM, endless system updates, tighter and tighter obsolescence timelines). Interface has become surveillance (everything with a mic or a camera is used to spy on us). Communication has become commodity (constant data scraping, compiling, and trading of human interactions).
AI is all this on steroids.
“When I was young, they told me that AI would do the menial labor so that we could spend more time doing the things we love, like making music, painting, and writing poetry. Today, the AI makes music, paints pictures, and writes poetry so that I can work longer hours at my menial labor job.”
AI bros are like pro-lifers, straw-manning an argument nobody is making.
I didn’t use it for those things but I do use it every day for a multitude of tasks. For myself I use it far more than Google itself.
Calcgpt.io combines all 3 to demonstrate how right all of these detractors are.
