Boomers: have more kids! we need the workforce
Boomers: all those taxes that made our families possible - nah fuck that. Keep the minimum wage locked for 15 years.
You used to be able to buy an entire house, pay the mortgage, support a small family, and still have minimal left over. One salary. Companies used to reward loyalty more than they do so you didn’t need to job hop to get anywhere. Universities were affordable, like you could work any job and pay for the semester from that.
Someone more familiar with the economic conditions correct me if I am wrong. Boomers could afford to live because venture capitalists weren’t extracting all the value from the economy to buy yachts.
Why would you link to some gold bug garbage when you could be sending articles on Reaganomics?
Many people my age have terrible boomer parents who just had kids because “that’s just what you do”. They didn’t even consider you could just not make babies.
Maybe we just think more for ourselves than the older generation.
Yep. My parents let me know why a burden my existence was at all possible times. They would leave me and my brother home alone (aged 8 and 5) after until bedtime. I have no idea what they were doing because work ended three hours ago. We lived off ritz crackers and easy to make food.
The teachers would tell us to shut up and be grateful we had a home when we talked about being hungry. Back in the 80’s you didn’t get free/reduced lunches. You were just a kid who forgot their lunch money for the 100th day in a row because you are a stupid piece of shit.
The 80’s were wild. No idea how Boomers got away with so much child abuse.
For me it’s the climate - no point in bringing a child in a world with a society that will inevitably collapse and a possible world war over land that’s still inhabitable.
Adoption maybe - but for me more children only equal more future suffering - and if not for my children because it’ll be somehow possible to shield them from the worst then for a couple of others that have to suffer in exchange when western countries pull up the drawbridge and let the global south deal with the mess they made for those countries…
Also, *gestures wildly around themself* look at the state the world is in. Which sane person would want to bring a child into this fucked up world?
Well, you and similar people know the world is fucked up, but there’s a lot more people out there swimming in the ignorance of simply believing everything is fine or that the people raising problems are catastrophising and that everything will somehow work out.
Those people will keep having kids even if basically every sign pointed to the certainty of that kid’s life ending early during some kind of traumatic existential struggle.
There’s just a percentage of society who simply don’t put in much thought beyond their immediate existence and future. That’s almost definitely bad in the grand scheme of things, but I guess on the flip side, they potentially live happier lives in ignorance before getting blipped out of existence.
I mean, 50% of humanity doesn’t have an inner monologue- they’re essentially just moving from one impulse to another.
Half of everyone. There’s no chance for this species without radical change.
Don’t confuse lack of an inner monologue with not thinking or not thinking critically. I lack a monologue when not doing verbal tasks, but I think visually/spacially/relationally instead for other tasks or when in rest or in the experience of my own consciousness. I pinky swear I’m not a philosophical zombie during that time:)
What’s the deal with inner monologue??
i have 1 until i learnt not everyone has one. what impact are there if one doesn’t have an inner monologue or voice in their heads…sans the schizophrenics
If you’re talking about aphantasia that’s less than 5% of the population, not half
For god’s sake – people who don’t hear their own voice in their own head are “just moving from one impulse to another”? People require an inner monologue, as opposed to seeing things in their imagination or what have you, in order to be capable of conscious thought? Are we seriously at the point where we’re saying “anyone who doesn’t experience the world the same way I do is no better than an animal”?
I don’t own a house with fortified bunker and a literal ton of food. Can’t buy a house to begin with. Being a doomer is for the rich.
Why do you need a house, a bunker? Being a doomer is being pessimistic about global problems, not prepping for the apocalypse.
We won’t have kids because, despite doing everything right, despite working hard, we’re struggling with finances. Kids wouldn’t be affordable without an extra job, and most of work two already!
This, but also if it’s this bad for me, why would I create more people to partake?
I have some kids and it’s incredibly bittersweet listening to them talk about the little art and music they create. They talk about painting pictures and making songs, being able to live in a nice house while doing that for a living.
Nope, have to be STEM, a nurse, a teacher, or learn a trade, kiddo. All those other degrees are fucking worthless and won’t get you a decent job.
Teacher isn’t going to make them much money and most don’t last more than 6 years.
I was shopping for daycare trying to kinda get a financial picture of how we could swing it not too long ago and the cheapest daycare I could find came out to about twice my mortgage lol. So I guess I either hit the lottery so I don’t have to use daycare or I just don’t have kids
This solution is of course not for everyone and its by no means ideal, but a third option for some is to start your own daycare.
No idea if that makes sense for you at all, just posting it here for people that really really want kids and need ideas for how to make the math work.