Diplomats walk out on Israeli prime minister’s speech at UN to protest against devastating war on Gaza and latest attacks on Lebanon

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He is such a fucking scumbag. Fuck him and fuck the rest of Israel.

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Fuck the USA, and every country too chicken shit to oppose a criminally corrupt sociopath committing war crimes to delay his own imminent corruption trial and imprisonment.

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63 points

Fuck the USA government, you mean. I only live here, and all I get to do is choose between the lesser of two evils every 4 years. What a nightmare.

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47 points

If you think you only get a choice once every four years, that’s part of the problem. There’s elections every single year, many of which you have more choice and more power over.

Maybe if people showed up to vote more than once every four years we’d actually see some effective change.

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39 points

Well yeah, obviously. If you blamed the entire population for its governments actions then every human alive is guilty.

Fuck the US government, and everyone who supports their crimes.

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2 points

All candidates steer clear away from condemning Israel because they know they’ll lose votes if they do. Sounds like this one is on the people.

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You’re a necessary accomplice. Organise. Burn shit up and build better things on top of the ashes.

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wait ok, i’m confused why do we hate the US government? Is it because it’s doing global geopolitics shit? Like what’s the motive for caring about this, as opposed to like, stopping world hunger.

Like the motive for the latter is obvious, but i don’t really see the motive for the former. It just seems like yelling at a vast brick wall for no reason.

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18 points

As an American I can assure you that there’s no shortage of reasons to hate our government. Don’t sweat it, just pile on all the reasons you want.

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why do we hate the us government

uhhhh where do you wanna start. I mean pick a year between 1776 and now. Pick a month, probably.

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Looking at the protests against him in Israel I think many if not most Israelis don’t want this campaign of violence. For many years I’ve felt sorry for all the civilians in that area, because they are trying to live their lives and extremist assholes on all sides keep killing them.

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12 points

Settlers can go fuck themselves though.

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5 points

Absolutely. They are extremist assholes.

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9 points

The protests aren’t against his policy of genocide in Palestine.

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They are against his government in general and started before his campaign of terror and I have seen no poll that would suggest sudden approval. So we can safely assume the protesters include that in their disapproval of him and his government of fascist cunts.

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138 points

including scores of women and children

This always assumes that there are no civilian men. I get that men are the ones usually conscripted, but… that’s always seemed weird to me.

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It makes for a more defensible argument. No sane person is going to argue that a 4 year old child is an enemy combatant. But a 20 year old male? It’s easy to argue they could have been an enemy combatant and so maybe the numbers are inflated. Saying 1000 people can be interpreted as 999 enemies and only 1 civilian casualty. Saying 1000 women and children is usually interpreted as 1000 innocent lives lost.

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43 points

Yeah, that’s true, but super fucked that women get the innocence of children and men are assumed to be not innocent in any situation.

Life is harsh when you’re a guy.

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27 points

Given the Israeli position on military rape, it’s just a different flavor of attrocity.

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But a 20 year old male? It’s easy to argue they could have been an enemy combatan

The age old problem of “excess males” solved by declaring open season on anyone with facial hair.

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53 points

In Gaza casualty numbers any adult man is assumed to be a combatant by Isreal.

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And a child is assumed to be a future combatant.

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11 points

And woman a combatant factory?

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12 points

Anyone past puberty actually.

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17 points

Call to emotion, nothing else. Women and children “sounds” worse than “people” dying.

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6 points

I mean, a score is 20. I think that means they’ve killed two thousand scores of people. “Scores of women and children” doesn’t really do that justice.

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19 points

Now if they would actually take action.

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13 points

Don’t worry, they’ll pass another strongly worded resolution.

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8 points

Which the USA will find a way to veto or Israel will continue to ignore it.

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The latter. The US only has a veto in the Security Council. Though even that isn’t entirely unconditional. Recently it abstained on a vote about a cease fire resolution, leading to much entitled complaining from Israel.

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why isn’t he arrested already? I wish I had similar privileges, where I could break laws (thst don’t violate human rights ofc.), make a shitload of money and travel the world freely.

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104 points

If he is still able to speak and be heard, then they arent loud enough. Every single person in that room needs to be screaming to demand his immediate arrest.

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27 points

Good point, them leaving says I don’t want to be involved not that I want to stop the injustice.

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5 points

It’s the only way they can express their revulsion at Israel, and the US who constantly block anything else they might try

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2 points

No… It says “I won’t be a part of this”. It’s a desperate act.

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