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You guys were friends with Chrome?

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Seriously! Even back in 2007 I was all “chrome is faster? Great, now Firefox has some competition” I never switched to chrome. You couldn’t pay me to use that privacy nightmare.

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I used it when it was new and google didn’t seem so bad. Google even sent me one of the original Chromebook prototypes (CH-47) before they launched as a product for sale. i don’t know when it started to become clear that google was going evil, but around 10 years ago it was really obvious where things were headed.

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i don’t know when it started to become clear that google was going evil

It was around the time they removed “Don’t be evil” from their official philosophy.

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I moved to Chrome after years of using Firefox when FireFox was having tons of issues that Chrome resolved.

Most of them are fixed now. Though it still has issues with selection boxes on some websites forcing me to use Chrome again for them. At least they’re government sites, mostly, so there’s no ads needing to be blocked… Yet.

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i haven’t used chrome in over ten years. i could never understand why anyone the least bit nerdy would use it, but that’s autism for ya

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Honestly? I’m lazy, my adblocker still works so that’s enough for me

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FF has been my daily driver for at least a decade, but I gotta test my web apps in everything :/

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I kinda prefer Vivaldi for testing chromium-based browsers. I guess MS Edge would be a similar experience too nowadays

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Vivaldi is so pretty, I hide pretty much everything from the interface and use it for making product demo and training videos. I considered using it as a daily but I’ve got FF set up just the way I like it.

I draw the line at installing edge on my linux machine! I just figure that if chrome works then edge works and haven’t had anyone report any issues.

Safari is the real pain in the butt…

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I have run Ungoogled Chromium, Thorium, and Vivaldi, and all of them perform much faster and better than Librewolf.

And Librewolf is my daily driver.

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Tab groups. I switched from Chrome to Firefox when all this Manifest V3 stuff started, and I’m still looking for a Firefox extension that works as well and looks as clean as the way Chrome handles tab grouping.

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Firefox has panorama and supports browser groups which swap the whole visble tab bar. Lots of options.

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Neither of those are nearly as effective though

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Chromium does have a clean UI. I still use Librewolf but the Firefox UI is a mess

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35 points

What UI? Both browsers render one line with tabs and the address bar below. They’re almost identical.

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For reals. This is the browser equivalent of being concerned that your car only has 14-way adjustable seats instead of 16, or whatever the marketing team dreamed up last year.

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Look at the screen usage though. It wastes a lot of space.

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To me, the Chromium UI looks and feels like a toy…

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What exactly is “clean” about a ui that doesnt conform to the os ui standards…? The ui is basically bloated because of it.

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Could you be more specific? I’ve been using ff regularly for a long time now and never feel like the UI is getting in the way, though I do use a tab groups add-on to help manage my mess of open tabs. But I also haven’t used Chrome for even longer than I’ve been using ff, so I’m curious about what specific ways you think the chrome ui is better.

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All the buttons and menu options are huge

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so many webapps and logins dont work properly in ff. or lets call it AdFox for now while they’re still selling us out to alphabet. so autism is when you just see black or white. chrome isnt bad overall…they have a UX, AdFox isnt good overall for too many reasons. i hope we’ll get a real browser before the web is dead.

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When have you used Firefox the last time, 10 years ago?

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Right? What kind of wildly niche activities are people doing where FF doesn’t work? All of my stuff works, and I’ve never had any weirdness. I browse art, shop online, do social media (a little), check my email, use auction sites, and watch Plex and other streaming services.

There must be an entire corner of the internet I don’t even know about.

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today.

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I’ve been using Firefox consistently since the beginning in 2004. And Netscape navigator before that. And I have never had these issues you speak of. I never made the switch to chrome when it was released because I always hated the look of it. Firefox does everything anyone needs to do. I don’t understand how some people struggle so much.

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Firefox does everything anyone needs to do. I don’t understand how some people struggle so much.

I’ve always wondered what it is that people are doing when they say that FF is too slow or inadequate in some way. But elsewhere in this thread to be found:

There’s only like one notable website I’ve had to use chromium for instead of Firefox.

The website for recalibrating a Google Pixel’s fingerprint sensor. I’ve had to use that website twice, and I just used Microsoft Edge to do it since I can’t uninstall it.

Absolutely wild.

I would use firefox, but youtube is basically unusable on it.

Also wild.

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If you haven’t used Firefox in 3+ years, its improved a lot. For 99% of people its interchangeable with Chrome except for being in the Google ecosystem.

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no. everytime its more shit. slap AI or autotranslate on it while no user hat that top prioritised. this shit stupid search in the middle that takes your cusor to magicbar or what that crap is called. pocket…fuck it. it takes longer to debloat firefox than finding an alternative. shit default search, shit ceo… moz has become 99% worse. TB was so good it had to go to keep the bar super low for future moz releases. devs are the worst in how they handled feature request while taking money from google.

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I don’t understand why translation is bad, could you please explain

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well either you use it and thats fine eventhough much culture gets lost in translation. or you dont use it at all like me and is just more bloat like shitty pocket. overall i want to chose what to install. my ff profile is so old with every update the first start after update takes ages…and mostly because adfox added stuff i didnt ask for. why is moz so stupid? other plattforms (osx, atlassian jira, slack) allow me to add functionality through their stores but keep the original product clean. adfox goes like slapping shit on everything. lets add AI to improve my searches…ah, why not use ai to do the entire browsing? and thats how idiocracy started.

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How come you don’t have a usename? Or is it a bug on my side?

BTW, I’m super happy with translation and AI in ff. I guess not every users wants the same, especially for those with english as first langage.

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name is using non latin characters, so id just imagine youre using an app or browser that doesnt support the character codes for it

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29 points

Always has been.

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I though it is not supposed to be polished since it rather new?

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I’m on Librewolf too. Recently its been fully signing me out of my extensions on every startup, so I can’t just unlock bitwarden with my pin anymore. Anyone else run into this?

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That was a bug in the bw extension, it’s not unique to LW

E: I use LW and bw and had this issue a couple of months ago, but it’s been back to normal for a month+

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Ah, this just started in the last couple of weeks.

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Brow-curious, lol. I’m gonna use that one

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I love Librewolf too, and if you’re looking to explore other options I do recommend giving the Mullvad Browser a go. It’s another firefox fork but I believe it handles fingerprinting in a better manner. Similarly, it comes with uBlock Origin built in but also NoScript. I’d likely use it as my primary browser but I don’t really care for NoScript and removing the extension would ultimately defeat the fingerprint resistance of Mullvad.

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