Don’t try to be Kennedy.

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Fuck anyone who hunts bears.

There is a natural order to prey and predators.

If you’re going to hunt a predator, and it’s not for sanctioned wildlife management culls, get a Bowie knife and have at it. Otherwise, I hope you suffer a horrible death.

I’m not anti-hunting, at all. Hunting is easily the most humane way to eat meat. But hunting predators is a sport, not subsistence.

You can pretty much guarantee that anyone who hunts predators for sport, is a gigantic asshole and you should not feel bad about wishing them harm. I would take that statement even further, but I don’t want the mods to remove this comment.

To be clear, no one likes bear meat, they’re opportunistic scavengers. These bears were hunted for sport most likely, but the hunters were slightly better than your average bear hunting asshole, and at least didn’t waste the meat. Most likely because it would be a wasted kill, and illegal.

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The California Grizzly was hunted to extinction for a number of reasons, but among them was that it was said to be delicious. Black bears aren’t really meat scavengers - they eat a lot of insects, berries, and some foliage. Actually pretty similar to the diet of a chicken. Tuna eat more meat than bears.

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What a fucking weird take. Hunting is fine but only some animals. Something about the natural order yadayada.

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There’s prey animals, like deer. Those are hunted for subsistence, to eat and use.

Predators do not taste good, they taste bad in fact. They are not hunted for subsistence to feed your family, they’re hunted for sport. They are killed for fun, so assholes can stuff them and mount their heads on walls.

So yeah, there’s a difference. Either you yourself, like to hunt predators for sport, or you have no experience with, or knowledge of, hunting at all. Either way, your take is awful.

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I ate bear meat once and it was delicious.

I’m also looking forward to a nice tuna melt sandwich.

Your take is retarded.

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Bro.

Bears have been hunted since before human history. Specifically for their meat and fur. They’re delicious. And warm and fuzzy.

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So your argument is that it’s wasteful? And that food is a better justification for the waste than making a trophy?

You can make trophies out of things that aren’t bears and you can eat things that aren’t deer, so I’m not sure how they are much different unless your argument is that eating specifically deer is important somehow and making trophies out of bears is not.

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I’m not anti-hunting, at all. Hunting is easily the most humane way to eat meat.

Ironically, hunting deer is now necessary here in Indiana because people hunted all the bears and wolves to extinction and now the deer population explodes and they all starve to death if hunters don’t keep the population in check.

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I thought this disease sounded familiar. Trichinosis - Wikipedia

While the most common vector in the U.S. is now bear meat, that wasn’t always the case. The most common human infection vector used to be undercooked pork!
Many older folks won’t touch pork unless it’s well done, because apparently these parasites make your muscles feel like they’re on fire.
A history teacher (many years ago) even told my class that trichnosis was the reason Jewish people don’t eat pork. (A quick internet search throws water on that. Doesn’t rule it out, but it’s not guaranteed to be correct, either.)

While I agree that hunting apex predators (or, really, any sport hunting) is kind of dumb, I do want to note that pigs famously eat slop and bathe in their own shit and bacon is delicious. Which is to say, we probably can’t assume taste based on diet/lifestyle

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Yep, my grandmother went through the Great Depression and didn’t eat pork unless it was well done. For example, bacon had to be crispy.

Turns out trichinosis can kill children, and not silently in their sleep.

These days, commercial pork is highly regulated and safer to the point you only have to be cautious with smaller ranches.

Unpasteurized milk has a similar story, but my grandmother swore drinking that as a child was why she never had osteoporosis.

Me? It’s 2024, most food lacks nutritional value, so I cook everything to temp and take supplements

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There is a certain case I advocate bear hunting: bears that gain a proclivity for human environments or for humans as prey. It’s rare, though, and can (and should) be handled by wildlife management personnel whenever reasonable.

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Yes, I specifically excluded sanctioned/lawful wildlife management practices.

Unfortunately you’ll see this a lot with polar bears, which is one of the reasons why proper waste management is so critical in Arctic towns/villages.

Poor waste management practices are capable of attracting more than just polar bears, but they are the most dangerous, for a host of reasons.

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I wish gun owners would advocate more for hunting invasive species, like in the US there’s too many feral hogs and nutria.

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They do. Texas allows ariel hunting of hogs, there’s no season, and no tag limit. I know lots of other areas have similar approaches of differentiating hunting laws and seasons when it comes to invasive species.

All the hunters I’ve known, have been an outdoor guys and nature conservationists, but also conservative usually.

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Texas allows ariel hunting of hogs

And how is a mermaid supposed to do that?

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No tag limit? That’s too far. I think the limit should be…say…30 to 50 feral hogs.

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Most gun owners that I know are not hunters. I’d like to change their perspectives and get them outdoors.

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I’m vegan but when people question my manhood, I tell them I love eating bear balls and I invite them to a hunt. Then, when we finally find a bear with balls that are worthy of me breaking my veganism, I just run. I usually only invite stupid people who are not more athletic than myself. It works out. Everyone gets a story to tell.

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So does your lawyer have to be vegan too or nah

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But how do I get him into the woods where the bears are?

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19 points

“When coming upon a dragon while adventuring with a halfling, one need not outrun the dragon, only the halfling.”

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I always thought it was bad to eat meat from carnivores. No idea where I heard that, but I’ve always accepted it as truth.

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The reasons not to eat a carnivore are the exact same reasons not to eat an herbivore, just some of them more so. The higher the trophic level of your food, the more bioaccumulation. There is no rational reason to eat animals when bountiful alternatives exist.

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Biomagnification is a thing, but people still eat tons of carnivores, like fish.

Eg for biomagnification is tuna has a high amount of mercury.

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Early humans ate lions. Even pre-human ancestors since neanderthals did too and we share a common ancestor. So I guess it’s okay to have carnivores as part of a varied diet of various meats and plants.

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6 points

People eat a lot of stuff when they are hungry that isn’t healthy.

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I’ve always heard from my biochemist buddies, you are what you eat plus 1 ‰ (per mil).

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I don’t think that applies in a broad sense if you include fish , but everything I know about bear meat says that you have to cook the shit out of it specifically to kill the many parasites that the bear’a immune system keeps at bay (but doesn’t completely destroy) while it’s alive. Eating rare bear meat is incredibly stupid.

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Eating any rare wild game is stupid.

You’re eating a wild animal, you have no idea what it’s been eating, drinking, or rolling around in. Cook the hell out of it.

Last time I made elk, I slow cooked it for like 8 hours. It was fall apart tender, but it had been in boiling broth for many hours. You can make delicious meals with wild game, you just have to cook it right.

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If I remember correctly they usually have more gamey meat

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Iirc it’s the liver of carnivores you cannot eat. It has a really high Vitamin A content and can be toxic.

Edit it was Vitamin A

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypervitaminosis_A#:~:text=The liver of certain animals,toxic dose for a human.

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37 points

Is it brain worms?

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Kinda. Trichinosis will eat your eyeballs eventually if allowed to progress far enough.

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If you get the parasite, just eat some of the bear’s liver.

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