100 points

The gap you leave should be speed-dependent and about 2 seconds to allow for reaction time. Yes, this caps the highway’s capacity to 0.5 cars per second per lane but roads are inherently inefficient.

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43 points

Aye, and 2 seconds is the bare minimum. A company I have worked for wanted 4 seconds between you and the car in front. That always felt a little much, but it definitely helped prevent wrecks.

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8 points

In my state, it’s one car length(15-20 feet) for every 10mph. Good luck getting anyone to actually follow it though! Getting on a major highway here is like the Autobahn.

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2 points

2 seconds assumes an instantaneous reaction and perfect road conditions. In the EU they’ll teach you about 3s and at least +1 in poor conditions.

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22 points

I was taught to look when the car in front drives past a landmark like a lamppost, then say to myself “Only a fool breaks the two second rule”

If you pass the lamppost before you finish saying it, you’re too close

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4 points

This is the only good answer. No need to distract yourself by figuring out your speed and guesstimating your gap like others are saying. Just count the seconds whenever you need to

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5 points

2 isn’t much, over here they recommend 3 at highway speeds

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6 points

3 seconds is the guideline I’ve been taught here in Sweden, but yeah. Riding too close is crazy dangerous and I don’t understand why people keep doing it.

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19 points

Two car lengths? You absolute madman! That’s positively grotesque!

For the purposes of this comment, I’m assuming that cars are about fifty feet long.

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9 points

At 60mph with a 2 second following distance, you’d need about 176 feet, so you’d want 3 car lengths with 50 foot cars.

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6 points

Limo driver moment

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84 points

If you’re only two lengths away from the car in front of you while driving at highway speeds, you are tailgating. Back off. It’s far more dangerous than speeding.

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39 points

Help me out with this, because it’s driving me crazy. Whenever I leave anywhere close to 2 seconds between me and the car on front of me, someone cuts in, and I’m now too close to them, so I slow down, leaving a 2 second gap, and another cuts in. Rinse, repeat. I end up being the slow ass that everyone keeps zooming around unless I tailgate.

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46 points

It just be that way. Idiots will see your safe following distance as their opportunity to switch lanes. Just keep being the safe one.

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7 points

Just be safe. You’re still close to your desires speed

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21 points

Just… Don’t care? Let people in and adjust the distance with them. Driving is an involved process, get a car with adaptive cruise control if you want one that will do exactly that for you.

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7 points

I guess it’s more than just “caring” - I feel that we’d all be a lot safer if we were all going the same speed instead of inviting people to dodge in and out

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3 points

Let them hop in and keep your 2 seconds. I used to have a 40 minute commute and on a busy morning would have 10-15 people do that. Know how much time that sets me back? 20 to 30 seconds. Following this rule I have a 25 year clean driving record and I guarantee these lane hoppers can’t make that claim

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5 points

it’s probably even less, maybe even negligible because of traffic lights at either end: you can’t calculate a single journey because you’re never going to hit the same light exactly the same every time. I have four lights between my house and the freeway, and 7 between the freeway and one of the sites for my job. Each one adds between 0-60 seconds randomly for an average of 6 minutes sitting and waiting per day. I would have to have a commute of like 120 miles of uninterrupted freeway driving for that to matter.

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Beyond “don’t care” - you get to be the traffic hacker who improves traffic for everyone. yayyy

Credit for above I think: Traffic Waves

trafficwaves.org

Anyone who wants to test how this can work?

Check this old-school site:

traffic-simulation.de

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17 points

At 65mph, you cover two car lengths (~30 ft) in about 1/3 of a second.

Typically human reaction time for braking is about 1.5 seconds.

If something went seriously wrong in front of you (like a sideways car, or a hidden obstacle in front of the car in front of you) you would have covered 10 car lengths before your foot touches the brake pedal.

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8 points

What I don’t get is the current trend of leaving 1-2 car lengths at traffic lights. At first I thought it was maybe all the new cars with their assisted driving features. But I’ve seen older cars do it too.

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1 point

Should be about one car length for every 10mph. On a highway unless you’re going slow that would be too close.

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1 point

Yeah, but what about 0 mph?

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1 point

As long as you didn’t crash it’s OK lol

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I leave one, maybe one and a half when stopped. I like having ample room to GTFO if I need to.

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6 points

It’s in case some jackass on their phone rear ends you, if you’re too close you’ll get pushed into the car in front of you. IIRC you can be liable for the damages to the car in front of you while stopped if a multiple car accident happens.

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You should be able to see the tires (generally) of the car ahead of you. That means you can easily / quickly turn out if the car ahead is stalled or something.

It also means you might not rear end the car ahead of you if someone hits you

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10 points

Cars are getting bigger, but people aren’t getting taller (as fast). Little granny can barely see her hood over the steering wheel so she needs to leave 2.75 miles of space between her and the car in front.

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6 points

Little granny needs to jack up her seat to its maximal height. And maybe get a booster seat if necessary. Either that or a periscope.

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2 points

This one terrifies me every time… When you pass a car going the opposite way, and it basically looks wike the steering wheel have a wig on… It’s always an old woman… Can they even see the road? Or are they navigating using the sky?

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2 points

You don’t need to leave a crazy amount of space when stopped at a traffic light, but you still should be leaving some. So if someone rear ends you, it minimizes the risk of your car then smashing into the person in front of you, so it reduces the risk of additional people being involved in an accident.

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8 points

On the other hand if you’re in a real city and someone is already behind you, please pull up tight. That way someone else farther back can make a light or turn lane.

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1 point

Or even better don’t enter the intersection when there isn’t enough room on the other side.

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1 point

That’s a thing? Seems pretty silly to me. You need space but not that much.

What annoys me here is that people will enter the intersection before traffic on the other side has a chance to clear thus blocking the road when the light changes.

I also don’t think the people who speed though the turn light. The light turns green and I have to sit and wait for traffic to clear

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1 point

That’s a big enough issue that it is illegal in some cities with signs posted, “Don’t block the box.”

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3 points

To be fair sometimes the timing of the light is problematic. However, if you see that there are cars ahead you should not enter the intersection

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38 points

nothing gets me more pissed off than when I’m driving the speed limit on an open road with an open passing zone, no one coming towards me or ahead of me, and some dipshit decides to ride my ass

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Then you need to lift off the accellerator, don’t brake check or anything, just slowly slow down.

If the car behind you won’t give you enough safety margin to maintain a high speed, then your only option to maintain safety is to reduce your speed so that the safety margin they give you is enough to stop in time for an accident.

Here in Sweden we have plenty of roundabouts, I will use those to also get rid of annoying drivers who just can’t manage their distance, if I have someone like that behind me when I get to a roundabout, I just drive a full lap of the roundabout and let them pass.

I will allways let these guys past when I can, they are in a rush to their own accident, and I am not, let them pass and and make them stop being my problem, if I can’t find a place to let them pass I will reduce my speed to compensate for their lack of safety margins

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25 points

I already subconsciously do this because I know it pisses them off, but I like your justification much better

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11 points

It isn’t even a justification, it is simple defensive driving, as I was taught in driving school, and reenforced by my dad many times.

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3 points

Sometimes I increment my cruise control down a mph at a time to see how much I can get them to slow down

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I just clean my windows.

The speed and distance will make it so all the cleaner fluid will spray on their windshield. Making it all nasty.

Feels like I am driving a spy car.

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1 point

My car can only increment in 5km/h steps, snd it is a bit too large to do this, but I would do this if I could

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3 points

Try putting on your right blinker, sometimes they get the message you’re encouraging them to pass.

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If that doesn’t work, there’s always the Chechen wave

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3 points

*Check local state laws for applicability

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5 points

Or you’re in the right hand lane and people are still tailgating you even though you’re going 70mph.

Some people are unnecessarily aggressive on the road. Probably because they have unresolved emotional issues and take it out on other drivers. At least that’s what I tell myself.

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Probably because they have unresolved emotional issues and take it out on other drivers.

Oh they absolutely do.

Besides guns, motor vehicles are probably the most physically powerful things most of us (in the US) have the freedom to control in our lives. And there are almost no restrictions on allowing someone to drive when they can’t or won’t regulate their emotional state.

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4 points

Its always a huge pickup truck too. I look in the mirror and just see the front grill

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