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It is a fantastically useful material, except for all the mesothelioma.

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Seriously, except for the horrific issues with the stuff, it would be an essential material for various applications.

Its resistance to fire, heat transfer, etc would do wonders for insulation and construction.

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Makes me wonder if it could be treated in some way to make it not-so-inhalable. Though maybe we have better synthetic alternatives by now.

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As I’ve understood it, the problem is primarily for the people having to manufacture products using it, and at rest it’s supposed to be inert.

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Doesn’t burn, really hard to wear out, you can just dig it out of the ground, easy to shape and repair.

Except it kills people, and it hurts the whole time they’re dying.

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12 points

Mother Gaia does a little trolling

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6 points

This is how you know the universe hates us.

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The universe owes none of us anything. We stick our noses into everything and some things aren’t good for us

This one is only really bad because the asbestos companies kept it secret when they found their product killed those exposed to it.

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“If you or a loved one have been diagnosed with mesothelioma, you may be entitled to compensation…”

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We are in Australia. The company that mined the stuff was found negligent as they kept selling it for decades after they knew it was deadly dangerous

I also hear that so many times thanks to one of the Brain Blaze (on YouTube) editors

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The same shit happened in Spain

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The company that founded Wittenoom?

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12 points

That and lead in paint and gasoline all worked amazingly.

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Lead in gasoline was a stop-gap solution. If I remember correctly , it was added because we didn’t have the technology at the time to refine gas sufficiently to get the octane levels necessary to prevent pre-ignition of fuel (which causes rod knock) at a reasonable cost. Tetraethyl lead effectively increased the octane level/resistance to pre-ignition. As a side benefit, the lead slightly lubricated the valves and valve seats so that they lasted for tens of thousands of miles, instead of needing to be reground every few thousand miles.

It was a stupid stop-gap though, esp. since the dangers of lead were well known by then.

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You’re mostly correct. It was an additive to raise the octane rating and did lubricate. However, it wasn’t a gas refinement issue that caused the need. An octane boosting additive has been needed ever since, right up to today. Now the octane booster used is ethanol, mostly.

Race cars and many airplanes still use lead. We’re still making people dumber. Just at a lesser scale.

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You’re getting something done to your engine every few thousand miles?

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2 points

As long as it doesn’t break down it’s awesome

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I had to reinsulate my attic a few years ago and I found about five different types of insulation up there (I have an old house) … I had to do a bunch of research on this stuff and figure out what I had … thankfully I was ok but I found this in my search online

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Oh my god. Blue asbestos is the worst kind, or best if mesothelioma is your thing. Every single one of the people in that picture died from pulmonary issues.

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My grandparents old farm had an asbestos carpet under their current carpet. I’m very very happy I was around to spot that, and for having audited a lot of abatement companies.

It also had asbestos roofing, but at least we weren’t about to rip that up by hand

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The first time I learnt about my asbestos I was about 12 and my mum was going off at my dad about it. This was after we just took a load of roofing off an old shed without masks or gloves.

Thinking of it. He also give me fucking tinnitus when I was like 22. Really should have fucking learnt my lesson by then :(

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But like, why asbestos?

Why can’t they shovel sand or dirt or something?

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To make people believe it was safe. They knew it wasn’t, so they manipulated public opinion with marketing stunts.

“Of course it’s safe! Look how safe it is! It’s fun for the whole family! What do you think we are, monsters?”

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When in fact yes … yes they were monsters … and there are monsters still around us today

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Wittenoom was an asbestos mining town, it was the whole reason for the towns existence. They believed at the time that not only was asbestos safe but they would spread blue asbestos out on the ground around their houses and paths on purpose (for some reason, i forget why exactly, might have been as an insect deterrent or something).
So this wouldnt be that weird for them, like a coal mining town digging buckets of coal.

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Our house is about 150 years old and we dug down to the dirt floor in one of the downstairs rooms. We found suspicious white bits, and had to send a sample off. Luckily it came back clear. It was unlikely anyway, as asbestos wasn’t in widespread use here in the 19th century.

However, we do have corrugated asbestos roofing on our “scullery” but it’s in one piece so can be left until we renovate that part, then disposed of safely. It’s pretty common to find it on sheds and outbuildings here.

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Treat your taste kindly with KENT, the cigarette with the NEW Micronite filter!

^^Micronite ^^is ^^asbestos.

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Oh oh, I’ve got one too. It’s not containing Asbestos but Thorium (or Radium respectively) tho.

“Doramad radioactive toothpaste”

“Creates natural freshness in the mouth!”

“Special biological healing effects by radium rays. A thousand times medically prescribed and recommended.”

“What does Doramad do? Through its radioactivity, it increases the defenses of teeth and gums. The cells are charged with a new vigorous life energy, which inhibits bacteria in their destructive ability. Hence the exquisite prevention and healing effect on gum diseases. Polishes enamel to the softest shiny white. Prevents tartar approach. Good foam, new taste, pleasant, mild and refreshing. Use extensively.”

Quick disclaimer: The last two quotes can be found on Wikipedia but they are not backed up with sources.

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26 points

Jesus fuck

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9 points

Oh yes, the market will grind us all into a thin gruel for another dollar.

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6 points

At least you don’t have to worry about caries anymore 💀

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16 points

And I thought Alex Jones’ colloidal silver was insane

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The irony is that production was only stopped after Hiroshima and Nagasaki as nobody wanted to buy radioactive toothpaste any more. So the US which developed nukes against the Germans actually saved the Germans from radioactive poisoning by dropping said nukes on Japan.

One could say it left a bitter taste in some German’s mouths. ^(I couldn’t resist)

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It’s because of that kind of thing that I’m always skeptical of startups bringing new and shiny things, that weren’t properly studied or tested, and promising to revolutionize something.

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Hey, how about that somewhat rushed mrna vaccine 😅

To be fair, fuck getting covid, plus there was significant related research, so I’m vaccinated…but also…👀

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You know what, their claim about odour being caused by bacteria, and bacteria being damaged by radiation is on point.

I’m sure you’ll have some odour when your mouth turns into a giant weeping sore though

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Weapons grade teeth…you should only have 20 teeth left at adulthood to safely use this product with a 90% chance of having no chain reaction events.

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2 points

in German they say “Für ein strahlendes Lächeln” (for a radiant/beaming smile)

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15 points

Is this double cancer?

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Super cancer actually, it’s an easy mistake to make

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11 points

turbocancer sticks!

now with better flavour!

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Oi, Kent! Oi, Kent! Cancer’s here, some there, it’s every-fuckin’-where!!

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I love seeing Ted Lasso jokes in the wild. :D

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Aw fuck, I knew I remembered that shit from childhood.

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24 points

Something something you may be entitled to compensation

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14 points

Do you have cancer yet?

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2 points

One assumes eventually.

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10 points

How are you still alive?

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Probably because symptoms of mesothelioma take decades to develop, and I only encountered that stuff around a few holiday seasons in my earliest memories.

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Aw fuck l, I knew I remembered that shit from childhood The Wizard of Oz.

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2 points

Also known as cancer in a box

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61 points

They’re going to say the same about plastic

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they already are

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And we keep ramping up production because… Capitalism!

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Plastic is not very reactive. This property makes it generally not directly harmful to organic health, but also notoriously slow to decompose, causing huge amounts of pollution. I think it’s misleading to compare it to asbestos.

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From what I gather, asbestos is also very stable and not reactive. Asbestosis is caused by tiny fibers physically tearing your lungs.

It’s unlikely that plastic is as dangerous (we’d seen it by now) but its buildup can likewise cause some condition.

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To be clear, asbestos is less reactive than plastic (particularly most thermoplastics) by a wide margin. One burns, the other will not. Asbestos is closer to glass. It requires incredibly high temperatures to turn it into glass as a matter of fact, as that’s about the only way to dispose of it permanently.

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Microplastics gathering in the brain. Most of which come from tires not food containers.

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4 points

Such as increased rates of infertility iirc

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Just waiting for 3D printing fumes and SLA resin to be under the radar.

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