I would be real disappointed if that was true
Also, why are pronouns bad when we do it?
“Ok guys I just got this great idea for how we can troll the left, it’s really funny I promise, what if we like, what if we all like, set up a community where we pretend to be commies, and also a bunch of us were like, trans and gay and stuff? No no like hear me out we would like ban anyone who says slurs or questions the validity of trans people in any way, lol. Like, what if we designed a bunch of custom emojis with the trans flag and made everyone display pronouns next to the name to make sure nobody gets misgendered? That’d be so funny lol. But we HAVE to make sure nobody catches on, so we should just like, keep the bit to ourselves for a couple years, we’d have to like, spend a couple years hanging out in that kinda space with just us until we can perfect the bit. Ok so who’s down?”
Seriously, have these people met chuds before? I’d be impressed to see one that could keep the mask on for like a day.
Don’t forget having fucking reading groups and forums for learning about leftist theory and history and having many users on hand who can discuss Marxist, etc. works with a great deal of familiarity, often readily including citations and encouraging people to do their own reading.
This is some “Judeo-Bolshevism” level shit
Would you be able to recommend some threads/comms that discuss theory and history? I’m new to hexbear and want to read up.
Listen to the Blowback podcast and the official podcast of the community founded around the podcast Chapo Trap House, which is Citations Needed.
Highly recommend this reading- some all of the audio links still work I think
https://hexbear.net/post/48476
We need more text heavy memes. It’s the only way to prove our credentials.
I don’t think they have met CHUDs. They talk about them, but almost never actually interact with them. So their entire idea about them is concocted in their own heads. That way they don’t risk being challenged by the way the CHUDs use exactly the same arguments as libs.
You might have a point. I guess most of us here are better at understanding what goes on inside the heads of chuds, compared to the average person.
At the same time, I think a lot of the stuff people say about us are symbolic beliefs that have more to do with the person saying them. For example, I don’t think libs “really” think we’re bots or foreign agents, but denouncing us as such lets them reaffirm their loyalty to the state. And this “secretly right-wing” stuff has the same feel. They believe it the same way people “believed” that Trump was going to make Mexico pay for the wall, they just like the way it feels when it comes out of their mouth.
Exactly right, at least as far as I can tell. Their complaints about us are ultimately immaterial. They’re just “bad things.” we are a collection of “bad things” to them, so they don’t have to listen to us. We make them uncomfortable, because Liberalism doesn’t actually explain anything about the world, but we clearly do have some kind of understanding of things that they lack. That’s threatening to their worldview.
But if they can put us in the “secretly right wing” box, then all our arguments are just “trickery” trying to trick them, the most important people. So they can feel justified in dismissing us without thought because we’re part of the bad guy team. Cognitive dissonance resolved.
Incredible bit idea though, getting a bunch of on estrogen for 3 years learning about queer theory to stick it to the libs
CW: antisemitism
Even at the peak of the the bizarre frenworld stuff when they tried their damnedest to keep the mask on there’d be a happy merchant or triple parens in every thread
Also I spend too much time here I started spelling “bullshit” B-O-L-S-H from transcribing my inner monologue.
Just like all their other bullshit. They claim we’re right-wing, they claim we aren’t LGBTQ+ accepting, they claim we support Putin, yet no matter how many times we ask, never once have they ever bothered to pony up any evidence to back up these wild accusations.
The issue is that the liberals have figured out you don’t need evidence. You just need more people to repeat a message often enough for it to become the accepted “”“truth”“”. It doesn’t have to be the actual truth but you create it by making people believe it through repetition.
It’s propaganda, and it works. Nobody is immune to it including us, but the more switched-off to propaganda that people are the more susceptible to it they are. And the vast majority of people are switched off to it.
That’s why they defederate us though. They create a chamber in which we don’t exist, and then repeat the propaganda without opposition where people believe it.
They did the same with historical revisionism, like the ribbentrop pact, and look at how almost every lib repeats that ahistorical shit now.
Social media pillarisation is about getting communists away from susceptible liberals, so that they don’t become communists and so that communists don’t interfere with their propaganda by injecting the actual truth.
I think since federation I’ve only seen a lemmy lib post a source once, and it was a link to wikipedia. They are allergic to providing proof/sources, whether it be a serious political discussion or petty federation drama. I saw a lemmy claim they received transphobic comments from a hexbear. A mod from here replied to them to provide the username so they can be banned. Of course the user “couldn’t remember” the username (can’t you just check your post history?).
They’re presumably much more used to people just believing the shit they say, and likewise they’re more used to just going along with whatever they hear. Many of us are commies in deeply capitalistic countries and we’re used to people not just going along with what we say, we’re used to them not believing us, expecting sources, we’re used to them trying to find any way they can to dismiss the sources we provide, and so on …
In regards to de federation I did half a dozen digs. In those dugs I found 5 people inventing things and one who was telling the truth somewhat correct, but since they didn’t get the vibe they misinterpreted the meaning of it. After that I stopped and took up the concept of: “If someone did something to you then you better link it in the fediverse, else I think you are lying”.
During the de federation of one instance I found a soldier who insulted for being an US narc. That guy claimed he got deaht threats for correcting people, not for him literally being in the war of aggression organization with genocide and collateral damage as a side dish.
So people here are right wingers pretending to be trans and left wing. In order to keep up the charade, we suppress our deeply held right wing urges to hate gay people by banning all homophobia, mandating pronouns, and having explicitly pro-trans comms. And we’ve done all of this completely isolated for years.
And we have executed this plot in order to…?
If they had the words they could critique us for our non consistent attitude in regards to anti imperialism vs progressivism in terms of liberalism etc. and a couple other things (which is in part a result of our diversity and left unity and in parts of other things).
However even if they had the words a vast majority would still use ill fitting attacks.
i was browsing blahaj to see what the aftermath of defederation was like. reading the thread this came from made me so angry i had to just stop
Yeah, those shitlibs really drove my brain cells to the brink of death in such an intense way that it awoke me from my 2 year old slumber. No more lurking, only dunking from now on.
sorry to hear about your 2 year old, hope you were able to get them back to sleep
first time I’ve ever seen them posting theory of any kind and it’s to something by ziq
edit- no shade to my anarchist comrades, ziq is obnoxious
Wait thinking Johns are gross is being detached from reality now? Really? Have any of these people actually talked to anyone in real life? Even fucking dudebros hate on Johns and call them simps lmao. Like I’m telling you, you’re not going to find much support for this in the real world. There’s a reason men don’t solicit sex workers in public and tell their wives about it.
There’s a reason sex work models in some countries make “selling” legal but “buying” illegal. It’s a real thing in the real world.
They picked probably the worst possible example to prove how disconnected we are. Shoulda gone with the rock stacking struggle sesh smh
Yeah there’s so many things they could have focused on, like outdoor cats vs indoor cats, rock stacking, our extremely weird in jokes, but they chose the one thing, which isn’t even a general position on here, just the opinion of one user, in which their views line up with societies general outlook.
Has real “I’m pro sex work because I want to have sex with these women” vibes.
Didn’t we just have an anti-SWERF struggle session a couple months ago? I thought the consensus was that sex has already been commodified and that sex work is no more “selling your body” than coal mining or any of a number of other jobs is, and that if you’re taking particular offense to sex work you should seriously reconsider whether that energy is coming from a sexist slut-shaming puritanical place or truly from your leftist values.
I didn’t take any particular stance on the issue because I’m neither sex worker, nor john, nor a woman. I guess I’m saying this partly to restate the strict anti-SWERF hexbear line, and partly to clarify my own understanding, not to attack you personally because I don’t think you’ve said anything necessarily incompatible with this, but it could be taken that way.
this is the take SamPond at blahaj was mad at. being anti john isnt SWERF shit. being anti john is abt having solidarity with sex workers. sex workers are indeed workers as much as coal miners are. pimps and johns, however, are akin to coal mine owners in this analogy. johns are not mere consumers, they are directly exploiting the labor of sex workers.
The first paragraph is very:
If you are not a liberal at 25, you have no heart. If you are not a conservative at 35 you have no brain.
Which has been a pet peeve of mine for a while. I think usually because they don’t give any reasoning or explanation. It’s just “you don’t understand the world yet”, then explain it to me!
I feel like the intent has to be just to dismiss young people’s views as being out of touch, without offering anything better.
I was a libertarian at 25 and i’m a communist at 40, their truism sucks and is wrong
if we’re pretending to be leftists, how are we BETTER at it then them?
