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What he and others who make this argument refuse to comprehend is this: If the VP were allowed to pull a stunt like this, then we are essentially saying that the VP picks the next President of the United States. No need to hold an election; might as well just have Harris declare Biden the winner of 2024 already and let’s just skip right to the swearing in. Heck, let’s be efficient about it – who wants to be President in 2028? Might as well have Harris declare the winner of that election too. Look at that; we’ve got the Presidency sorted out for the next decade or so, and we can spend the next few years prepping someone like AOC for the White House in 2032.

I mean that’s the way it works, right? The VP can just unilaterally declare who did and didn’t win the election, right GOP? Because if this is the rule you’re gonna set forth, we might as well take full advantage of it…

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87 points

You don’t understand… Only Republican VPs can ignore voters when calling elections. If a Democrat tried to pull that shit it’s obvious treason.

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21 points

Same reason you can’t confirm a Supreme Court Justice during an election year… when a Democrat is president.

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25 points

Agreed to me it also seems just dumb for pence. By not commiting treason he’s made an enemy of trump, and therefore trump supporters for life. He should really just court the anti-trump republicans rather than continuing to try and win back the unrecoverable trump base.

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That seems to be his strategy so far. We’ll see how well it works out.

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Pence is a religious zealot. Never Trumpers are usually neocons that genuinely believe the bullshit they are peddling, not stereotypically dogwhistling racists and zealots, so he has nothing to offer them and, quite frankly, is probably too emotionally tied to being liked by his fellow Evangelicals to admit his one moment of morality was unforgivable to them.

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22 points

No not like that!

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Harris should absolutely threaten to do this if they don’t shut the fuck up and stop trying to overthrow the country. Go full Dark Harris. Fuck it. The repugs already believe anyone NOT them is a Demon anyways.

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Harris has been kind of an empty suit so far so this would really help her image too.

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5 points

Her purpose must be to prevent Biden assassination since killing him would make a Black Female (that’s DOUBLE WOKE 😱) president.

Otherwise idk what she do.

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5 points

No, no, letting the VP pick any successor makes it too easy for them to game the system! We should come up with a completely objective, impartial method.

The oldest child of the current President becomes the next President.

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But what if that child is dead, or too young, or incapacitated? Who gets it if they’re incapacitated? What about if that person is incapacitated?

We would need a whole line of succession just to make sure that nobody can game the system. I think it’s too important to come up with a whole new, untested system so we should look to others for inspiration. I heard about some guy in the UK…Charles something or other…maybe he’s got some ideas?

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As others are reporting, he also said he would have certified the results.

So he’s mostly trying to have both ways.

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This is the same asshole who, after people calling him out for not being a voice for POC (aka 'skin folk ain’t always kinfolk ') said that these were the words of the modern Grand Dragons. This fucking idiot is calling the left the KKK (as do all Republicans because they can’t admit the ancestors of their party were the KKK) because he’s just a brown voice for white supremacy and the party/culture of POC oppression and murder.

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Like any Republican voters would vote him into office? He must be delusional.

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26 points

He is a billionaire in biotech/pharmaceutical space. He is auditioning for FDA chief of HHS secretary spot. He will say anything and everything to get that spot. He will even throw the entire Indian community under the bus in a heartbeat if it benefits him.

Voice of POC my ass. He is a voice for POS for sure.

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Vivek is the guy all the old white republicans are referring to when they backpedal and say “no, wait, what I just said isn’t racist because I have a friend who is a brown person!”

Vivek doesn’t realize that he’s that guy.

Also, knowing the GOP base’s predilections, I give him precisely 0% chance in the Republican primary.

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Vivek 100% realizes he is that guy.

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5 points

He didn’t get the bump in polls he hoped for in the debate so he’s going more extreme. It’s a bold move but won’t help, and only dooms his chances of winning a general election by saying this.

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Well, he is correct in that it would have be historic. A bigger opportunity for Pence right now would be to have some balls and a backbone, call out Trump for the criminal, insurrectionist, and traitor that he is, and lead the Republican party back to its so-called morality, law-and-order, and “character matters” roots. I’m not a fan of Pence by any means (I totally disagree with him on nearly every issue), but this is the real historic tragedy of Pence and his political career.

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Yup, and such an easy way to stand out from the other candidates.

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That will never happen. What’s that saying about republicans and falling in line? I don’t think I’ve heard a really strong, public condemnation of a republican by a republican since John McCain passed. Fox news has, or maybe had, they are losing some viewers to the even more extreme channels now, every republican by the balls. None of them will risk being on the ‘bad side’ of the party and being hammered where every one of their voters tunes in.

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52 points

This dude sounds dangerous as fuck.

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41 points

He has zero government experience, has never held a real job, and he doesn’t understand how the nation operates. Pretty much a complete moron with money.

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16 points

That worked well for the last Republican presidential candidate to win.

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4 points

Yep, I’m done thinking ridiculous candidates have no chance in the country. He needs to stopped.

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14 points

Dude literally jumped into the Republican party pitching what they were all thinking

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4 points

His entire campaign strategy is to shout the quiet part

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11 points

He also pitched his campaign finding as a pyramid scheme. If you recruit people to fund his campaign, whatever they give to him, you get 10 percent back.

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5 points

Why are you talking about Trump under a Ramaswamy post? ;)

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33 points

This is an intelligent guy. He isn’t firing from the hip. He’s saying what the party wants to hear to try and get more attention on him. I wonder if he’s trying to be Trump’s VP candidate.

I’m not saying I agree with any of his shit, just saying this is calculated on his part. I also don’t really agree with Pence with much of anything, but certifying the election results and being against the Jan 6th insurrection is something I appreciate.

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Let’s face it, his best play to become President is to be Trump’s VP. It is very possible that Trump wins the election while in prison, and I doubt he will be let out to take his oath of office. Boom! Instant President Ramaswamy!

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In many fields, the best players often come in second or third place consistently. This is because some reckless person risks way too much to come in first. The risky move has 90% chance to fail, but someone makes the 10% chance and wins big.

This is his play. Randomly guessing 70% of GOP voters consider Jan 6th a dangerous thing. He’s letting all of the other candidates fight over the 70% while he tries to get the other 30% vote. He pretty much can’t win with the traditional campaigning methods (although on average they are more likely to succeed) so he has to go risky. He’s stuck with that position if it succeeds.

Or he could be a true believer. I lean towards most of it being a calculated play, though.

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I wonder if he’s trying to be Trump’s VP candidate.

I think that apart from Mike Pence and Chris Christie it’s clear that none of these Republican candidates have any delusions of securing the GOP nomination. They’re all auditioning to be Trump’s VP and I guarantee they admit it in private. So I agree with you here. Ramaswamy is saying what he needs to in order to get Trump’s attention and win over the MAGA crowd.

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I think it goes one step further than a VP audition. I think this rich guy saw Trump’s family members enrich themselves off of his presidency, and he’s thinking he could do the same as Trump’s VP.

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