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On the other hand, anyone who tells you, “I always tell the truth,” is probably lying.

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*pinocchio

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“If you were to ask me if I always lie, I would say ‘yes’.”

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Which would be saying the truth. Which contradict itself.

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No—if they were to ask you, you would lie and say “no”. So the claim that you’d make a true statement is still a lie.

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No, it’s a lie. They wouldn’t say yes, so saying that they would say yes is a lie.

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you don’t need to say yes if someone asks you?

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You won’t have to lie to said question, but you’d have to tell the truth to do that… or that be a lie too… well, OC is partly right. But it isn’t a surefire solution.

If your interlocutor end up asking you the question anyway, you either have to answer “yes”, in which case OC told the truth and then you don’t always lie, which means you lied to the answer (as you donlt always lie). Or you answer “No”, which means you lied in OC, but told the truth as an answer.

Either way, there is no solution to this paradox. You cannot tell that you always lie without telling a truth.

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Someone’s been studying the 2 guardians puzzle.

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Unfortunately you are wrong as there is a very distinct way to say the phrase you quoted, that being to utter the words “I always lie.”

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You can say the statement. Doesn’t mean the statement is true. You might be a habitual liar and that particular statement is a lie.

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this statement is false

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I’ll go with true.

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A fun detail is that all the franken cubes fry and die after hearing the paradox, but Wheatley is still fine.

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Really? I didn’t notice that.

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I always wondered why glados is fine, just saying because she’s a potatoe doesn’t sit with me because she recognised the paradox herself, so she must know what a paradox is and understand why it’s dangerous for ai

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Yeah, the implication being that in a typical Sledgehammers-To-Crack-Nuts solution to a nonexistent problem, Aperture put full-blown, totally sentient AIs in their cubes/turrets that were at least as intelligent as Wheatley.

Also I only just noticed that Bagley from Watch Dogs is very, very similar to Wheatley.

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but then it wouldn’t be false

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