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MSG. People will swear it gives them all manner of ailments

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I bought a big pack of msg from the Asian supermarket and use it instead of normal salt for many things. My partner and I call it wonder salt.

(Of course, msg like normal salt or anything should be used in moderation lol)

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I bought a big pack of msg from the Asian supermarket and use it instead of normal salt for many things. My partner and I call it wonder salt.

I hear the voices of my ancestors cry in confusion.

But seriously speaking, I’ve never encountered MSG being used in place of salt. We use it here to give food more of that nondescript meaty taste (aka umami).

Personally, if I need both salty and umami tastes I’d reach for soy or fish sauce first (depending on what’s being cooked). I’d only add MSG and/or salt if I really have to—usually to make minute adjustments.

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I’m sorry for offending your ancestors. I hope they can find it in their hearts to forgive me lol

Tbh, I’m not very good at cooking and I rarely add salt to my food. If I want saltiness, I usually get it through ingredients like soy sauce, for example. I guess I don’t mean that I use the msg instead of salt, but I do use in foods where you might add salt, and I just happen to not since I added something else that serves a similar purpose. Does that make sense? But then, like I said, I’m not good at cooking and I just try to make things and experiment a bunch (a lot of experiments have failed horribly)

Also - maybe it also makes a difference that I eat vegan/vegetarian and I don’t always know how to fill in the “meaty” gap that I feel like can be missing.

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I heard a lot about how msg can make stuff taste great, so I bought some a while back and I try it every now and then, but I can’t really tell the difference. If I use too much I do notice that it makes the taste worse. I don’t know if I’m doing it wrong.

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Yeah, using too much is going to make your food taste gross, just like adding too much salt would too. I also think it might not be suitable for every dish, so I think there’s some experimentation required. For me, I like to add it to things that have a lot of tomato in them (like a sauce) or when I feel like there’s something “missing”. I find it rounds out the taste.

Maybe while you’re cooking, taste your food before and then immediately after adding some msg, taste it again. It won’t be like a huge, in your face difference - it’s pretty subtle imo. Then again everyone’s tastes and taste buds are different and it might just actually not be for you!

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I remember when I was looking up diet videos years ago everyone was VEHEMETLY advocating against MSG and how bad it was for you, especially for diabetics. I’m still not entirely sure what to believe, but I know MSG isn’t as bad as everyone thought it was.

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It’s basically just salt. Salt can be bad for you if you eat too much of it. Don’t over salt your food and you’re fine.

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That was the conclusion i came to, it’s just another seasoning like paprika or salt. The opposition to it is what keeps me skeptical, if it’s just a seasoning why are people so randomly against it? I think it’s because it’s used in lots of fast food.

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MSG isn’t “bad” at all, it’s just another ingredient really. The campaign against it was entirely bullshit that was driven by racism against Asian people because it’s a common ingredient in Chinese food.

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It’s almost like a cheat code to make almost anything taste better!

But I also I don’t understand people who think that it literally is cheating and shouldn’t be used because of that. If msg is cheating, salt is also cheating.

For me, msg has become almost as important “tool” in the kitchen as salt.

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My understanding of “cheating” when it comes to cooking is that you’re becoming reliant on something that might be/become difficult to get ahold of. Pure salt is ubiquitous in western cuisine, so most would feel comfortable relying on it. That’s not the case with MSG.

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I also love msg, but 2.4kg would probably last a decade in my pantry. I use it sparingly. How much do you use?

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There’s glutamate, although not MSG, in breast milk. Also sugar in the form of lactose. That’s because that’s what gets babies to keep sucking.

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MSG is naturally in certain foods too, like tomatos and seaweed.

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Msg started from analyzing seaweed, thanks Japan

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I remember reading something from Chef John being against MSG (he was commenting within one of his YouTube videos). But not for health reasons. He just felt the flavor punch it gave lead to addictive overeating.

I’m like bitch, that delicious food you showcase does the same thing, you don’t hear me bitching about it.

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I love the taste of msg, unfortunately over the past few years it seems to have become a trigger for my migraines. I miss eating noodles with msg.

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Had a gnarly migraine yesterday after having msg. Hope its not msg causing it, so tasty 😩

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I sometimes eat it knowingly and then question all my life decisions once the migraine sets in 🤣

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That’s actually a misconception within a misconception.

It’s not that MSG allergies don’t exist, it is that they are often downplayed for the same reason that Celiac’s disease is downplayed. When a few people fake or overexaggerate their symptoms, credibility is taken from the rest of us who actually suffer from it. Now people are always quick to invalidate those who are symptomatic.

Yes, it’s true that some of the rumors around MSG are racially motivated, and that some people who claim to be affected are lying. But that doesn’t mean that MSG related symptoms aren’t real for the rest of us. Speaking as someone who is from Hong Kong, grew up with MSG, and absolutely loves the taste of it, but developed health conditions that were comorbid with MSG intolerance.

As a chronic pain and migraine sufferer, large quantities of MSG is a common trigger for migraines (or headaches when I’m lucky). I’ve been blind tested before with someone else’s help using the same quantities of salt vs MSG in a cellulose capsule. Each time, I would happen to be fine after taking the salt capsule with a glass of water. But after taking the MSG capsule with a glass of water, I would have have a headache or a painfully tense sensation around my head. This was done multiple times across separate days to rule out confounding factors.

It’s likely true that for the vast majority of people MSG doesn’t trigger a reaction. However, a few of us have an intolerance and we are frequently dismissed and medically gaslit. Please believe us. I’m so tired of people telling me that what I’m experiencing isn’t real. I wish it didn’t have to be real so I could go back to eating whatever I want and not worry about migraines.

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I was confused at first how anyone thought that Madison Square Garden was dangerous, could it be all that ice-hockey they play there. Then I read the other comments and now I realize it’s the basketball.

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Socialism.

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Careful, friend. Once you start giving a shit about people who don’t have much money it’s a slippery slope

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Yeah…good trolling there.

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The government providing a baseline existence for it’s people is like super fucking dangerous.

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Dangerous to the profit margin of a lot of companies, maybe.

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There are already programs. Run by a government that obviously can’t help. We don’t need to share our wealth, if we were provided wealth through real jobs. With a paycheck to buy whatever it is you need and be able to save. Less taxes, less inflation. It’s the government chopping your wealth at your knees too “feed” other people will only make it harder to become financially well set for your chosen life style.

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166 points

LGBTQ people and drag queens.

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First the gay agenda, now the trans agenda, when will the agendas end?!?

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I’m telling ya, it’s all a part of Big Agenda…

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Can we go back to the simple, front picture changing, neato math/science fact having, paper agenda instead? I’ll even have my mom sign in daily it we can agree to this.

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Resist Big Agenda! Spontaneity only!

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Well dressed people that can often dance (in high heels) and sing and are comfortable in their bodies. What the hell

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Speak for yourself, sis. I’m a dangerous homosexual. 💅🔪

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The most dangerous thing about drag shows is that a Christian can show up with a gun

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This is a great quote. I may have to borrow it.

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“Christian”

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Nah, quotes not necessary.

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True Scotsman Fallacy detected.

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In South Korea most fans have timers so they’re not left on overnight, because people think it’ll kill you if you do leave it on.
This belief wasn’t helped by medical examiners putting “death by fan” on the death certificates of suicide victims to help the dead save face and spare the families the embarrassment of a “cowardly death” for a few decades.

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What is death by fan supposed to mean? Like how would you die from a fan?

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130 points

Ask John Lennon.

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25 points

Lol, Jesus Christ

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!LeMMySilvur

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Oh shit… This was funny. Thank you.

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Many people believe that death by fan sucks but really, it blows.

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I think they believe it will blow all the air out of the room

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Chop up all the oxygen and make it unusable?

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Fan Death.

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I used to work in a real sweatbox of a factory so we had huge fans running all day. It was deceptive because you’d normally be drenched in sweat but the fans prevented it. So you’d drink a gallon of water and take maybe one brown ass dehydrated piss. I could see something like that being blamed on a fan. Just heat exhaustion or dehydration

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10 points

So do they think that CPAP machines are just suicide devices?

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For my country (Germany): Catching a draft. Basically people believe that a light breeze from an open window will make you ill.

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We have a similar one here in the US. People think if you go outside when it’s too cold, you’ll get sick.

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It’s not completely baseless. You can’t get sick from the cold itself, but lower core body temp does weaken your immune system until you warm up, making it easier for you to get sick if you do get exposed to something.

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The cold, dry air during the winter can also dry out the mucus membranes in the sinuses which can make it easier for pathogens to enter the body. Again, doesn’t make you sick directly but does interfere with your body’s defense mechanisms.

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In the US, I hear this more when your hair is wet: “Don’t go outside, it’s cold and your hair’s wet, you’ll get sick!”

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Not only colds, but you also get stiff necks! According to my mother, it’s almost instantly. Leaving two windows open makes here neck stiffer than a priest in a kindergarten, but only inside. Standing in the wind outside is perfectly fine.

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Also Russia and probably most eastern European countries. One of my kids will catch a cold and the first thing my mother or grandmother will ask is if they were somewhere drafty.

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It’s even in the name! A “cold”, huh!

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God, on one hand, catching a draft makes you die and then on the other STOSSLÜFTEN!!

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Tja ein STOSS ist halt kein ZUG!

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Schon, wenn meine Mutter lüftet. Alle Fenster im Haus (auch im Winter) und das ist nicht mehr ein Zug, aber ein ganzer Hauptbahnhof lol

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Similar in France, also airco giving you all kinds of symptoms

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I’ve heard that cited in stories, usually older. A baby dies and they blame someone leaving the door open too long and letting in a draft.

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I didn’t know it’s a thing in Germany too. 😊 Drafts are also blamed for pretty much any unexpected ailment, from rheumatism to toothache. And off course cold, flu and so on.

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That’s totally cultural, in the US it’s dehydration

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I don’t know about that, I always get a pink eye and my sinuses start to hurt if I stay in draft for a longer period of time.

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Oh, that kind of draft

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Yeah, but then they go and open all the windows to “change the air” no matter the weather.

I used to work with a bunch of Germans in the US. I came in to the office one time at about 4:30am in February. One of the guys had all the windows open when the outdoor temperature was something like -20F.

Like Moritz, I think that avoiding the draft is more important than changing the air at that point. 🙄

I also had an old manufacturing guy tell me that drinking cold water in the summer would kill you because of the shock to your system.

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Similar to “fan death” in Korea, where they think running a fan in your bedroom while you sleep can kill you.

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Same in Czechia.

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