Think about it; instead of those in charge or the instances deciding who they don’t want to be federated with and thus restricting content for the users, it would be better if users were able to block entire instances instead.
We’d be able to curate our own browsing experience so much better without admin/mod drama influencing the rest of us.
Edit: Alright so maybe not exactly replace defederation, but it should still be an option available to us, and in general should become the default action before defederation IMHO.
Agreed, curious to see when it will be implemented.
This is like, my fourth account on Lemmy. Had to switch instances several times because they were defederating too much and I couldn’t get an unbiased all feed.
Blahaj.zone defederated from all tankies and they defederated from lemmynsfw over child porn for hosting… “adorableporn”
Yeah the whole instance is essentially one trans person’s safe space. Nothing wrong with that, there certainly should be such communities, but for the reasons you mentioned it is not a good instance to choose unless you are specifically looking for a heavily moderated trans community.
Trans people shouldn’t have to corral themselves away in trans-specific communities. They’re part of the wider community, just like anyone else & deserve safety within that.
It really isn’t hard for the rest of us to refuse to tolerate transphobia, whether or not there are trans people in the vicinity.
I couldn’t get an unbiased all feed.
Lemmy would crash if you fed it everything, that’s why Lemmy.ml and lemmy.world were crashing so often since May, the SQL did not scale. Some of those problems have been fixed, but it was performing really badly at the time of the Reddit API cutoff.
The admin headaches of a full feed from over a thousand unknown sources means you are opening yourself up to a lot of legal, copyright, porn, vote manipulation, unpredictable load surges, etc. I think it would have to be something people fund a lemmy site that promises to carry everything.
Flip side: imagine being a new Lemmy user, maybe coming from the algorithmically curated experience of Reddit, and having to learn what instance blocking is, how to do it and who to block. It would be quite overwhelming.
I’m all for user freedom but some users don’t want freedom. They want something that works without having to spend 15 minutes configuring it.
I’d rather have that than massive instances with communities for things like fantasy sports and every possible country on earth and not have a way of curating that properly while also being subject to the whims of a few powerhungry admins.
It’s why a lot of people praised the fediverse instead of reddit yet we’re facing the exact same problems.
It is the virtue of the federation system that defederating does not deplatform or silence people. If you want to read content from a server that a server you use defederated from - it’s still there. Just go make an account somewhere more open or directly on whatever instance you feel you’re missing.
I don’t see how that would be impacted by user-based choice instead of mod-based choice.
How about a compromise? Each instance can define a blocklist of other instances they don’t want, which is copied to the user’s blocklist when they register to the instance. Then you give an option to the user to edit the blocklist.
This way you have the curated experience, but users have freedom to change it for themselves if they want to.
Totally agreed on that, it’s actually a feature I’m working on adding to the UI fork I’m going to use for my instance.
It uses the admin-defined Fediseers preferences of an instance and hides content from users according to them.
Very good.
Also I checked fediseer.com, it’s an almost perfect website, congrats.
There are some instances which are better to block.
The only thing we cannot tolerate is intolerance.
Probably for the major instances that are raking in donations sure, there’s tons of instances riddled with csam, loli, extreme bigotry though and who the hell wants that stuff on their storage?
I’m talking about the people running the instances? Just keep storing all the child porn?
Those aren’t even close to being relevant to this discussion.
You’re being mad at something completely different.
