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Federation isn’t like email at all. I don’t know why people keep saying that. You’ll never get a message saying “we’re not receiving email from this server today” unless something has gone horribly wrong.

Email also doesn’t hang with a green loading circle for hours when you try to log in.

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gmail and outlook and yahoo just silently drop my emails so I don’t even get the courtesy of a notification, and it’s almost impossible to get it appealed. The server issues will be fixed with time, reddit used to crash all the time.

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Smaller domains are blocked all the time, ask your local email admin… just because you’re not getting messages about it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen

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As someone who runs multiple email servers, this is exactly how it works.

Some email providers will randomly or purposely block emails I sent to them. I get arbitrary blocks or dropped emails on sent emails.

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Spam filtering on email is defederation. It’s just in the background and isn’t talked much about because it’s been automated quite a lot. But at the end of the day it’s still writing domain names into blacklist, essentially defederating from those domains.

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I think others are noting how it can be like this. In my experience:

  • My kids’ school accounts can only send emails to and receive emails from their teachers’ email addresses. All other emails, including those from fellow students, are blocked.
  • I frequently have issues with whitelisted email addresses at work. They sometimes are blocked and I have to go through the tedious whitelisting process all over again.
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Email has the same problems as federated lemmy servers.

Mail Servers can end up on distrubuted blacklists and unable to communicate with each other. When office 365 has an outage it causes huge problems because it’s a single large provider having issues. That provider goes down but not email as a whole.

This is the same as what happened about a week ago when lemmy.ml and lemmy.world went down due to load.

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I’m more seeing it as tiny villages in the same country. Sometimes there’s a duplicate Starbucks over in the other village, but they might have a different daily special. And some villages have beef with eachother, and then you gotta sneak out if you still want to secretly visit your beloved in the other village. Or move over to your summer house in village #3, where you can both meet up without issues.

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There are blacklisted email servers. And when email started you had loading circle for the whole internet.

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No, that was pretty much how email worked for a long time. And IRC.

I remember someone even making a song “I am going to ban your domain” to the tune of “they’re coming to take me away” to mock sysadmins who took this drastic measure too quickly.

Some university servers would block all email from abroad except for some whitelisted servers. My school blocked emails from another school because the students were badly policed and would just harrass other schools.

Some domains were universally blockdd because they were used by spammers and scammers.

This mostly softened into spam folders and increasingly sophisticated filtering, which is dominating today.

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39 points

Irony

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47 points

Antiwork mods should quiet quit. Sit back and let the house burn down.

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It’s like, come on AntiWork, you had one job. Or none job. You know what I mean.

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I like what /r/pics did.

We – the so-called “landed gentry” – appreciate that Reddit is made great by its users. Uncompensated contributors populate the platform’s many communities with their content, just as volunteer moderators keep spam and bigotry at bay. Since neither we nor Reddit would be here without you, it was only fair to let you determine what /r/Pics should include… and you overwhelmingly chose to feature only images of John Oliver looking sexy. (Seriously, the final vote was -2,329 to 37,331.)

As such, /r/Pics will henceforth feature only images of John Oliver looking sexy.

It’s great, have a scroll. No intent to derail, here’s the thread on !reddit@lemmy.ml: https://lemmy.world/post/206467

I wonder if a similar stunt would have been possible for /r/antiwork. Any ideas? How about: “You must rest on weekdays. Posts and comments are only allowed on weekends.”

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I hate to be a party pooper, but I really can’t see how the subreddits doing things like that are in any way a protest.

I highly doubt Reddit cares what anyone is posting pictures of as long as they are legal, and the engagement is high. The only way to post them is to engage with Reddit, whether on their website, through the official app, or through a third party app that has to pay Reddit money to use the API. That’s exactly what Reddit wants.

And as for the mods: in a real life scenario, I can see how the threat of being replaced is scary because it means losing your income… but here? They were doing free labour, and as soon as Reddit threatened to take away their power over a corner of the internet, they immediately gave in and proceeded to encourage their audience to “protest” by engaging with Reddit.

I think it would have been several times more effective if the mods just all quit, and everyone who is “protesting” by engaging with Reddit in one form or another (posting, commenting, or just looking and upvoting) just left. I really doubt Reddit is even worried about what is happening now.

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I really think the point is that posting useless content that actively protests the platform and makes it less valuable and interesting should make it hard for Reddit to show investors that their platform is worth money as they go public, which is why the whole thing started in the first place.

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imo the novelty of john oliver will wear off soon, and people will want regular content again. so long as mods stay firm that regular content is not allowed, users will be dissatisfied and lower their engagement. though it’s not a perfect plan (people could just use different subs), it’s better than nothing

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people go to reddit for the content. if the content isn’t on reddit anymore, they will end up elsewhere. filling reddit up with content that nobody really cares about will dissuade people from using reddit.

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I think the point is this dissuades lurkers, as it’s boring.

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The lurkers are the ones upvoting. I’m certain that not posting content would be much more boring. What would lurkers do with a drought of content?

To be completely honest, all of these just sound like a lot of excuses for people to toss their alleged ideals and values aside and keep using Reddit, while soothing their conscience by pretending they are still doing something.

And I say “alleged ideals” because if one drops them as soon as they encounter any resistance and it stops being comfortable to stand by them, then I don’t think it can be said they ever stood by those ideals in the first place. With all respect, I would say they were just playing make believe until things got real and actually affected them. And the sad part is that it affected them in the most minute of ways.

Perhaps I’m being too dramatic, but it makes me wonder: if people can’t even organize and keep a strike for one week when it requires this little of them, and a lot are succumbing to the smallest of threats (“you will henceforth no longer be allowed to perform free labour for us”), then what’s the point in even trying to organize and change anything in the real world?

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You are only allowed to Upload pictures of not doing work

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I like your idea, but also combine it with the idea behind CatsStandingUp, but each post must be the exact same image, with the exact same title. Make it as boring as possible.
To add extra spice: Everyone who posts or comments gets automatically banned by automod, as participation is working and against community ideals. I have no idea if that breaks any site rules, but it would discourage participation.

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Everyone who posts or comments gets automatically banned by automod, as participation is working and against community ideals.

So good :D

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That’s brilliant, hope to see Reddit turn into nothing but a slew of super-specific protest posts.

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6 points

Should we be brigading it with spam and trash to reduce it’s worth?

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You’ll love what r/steam did. They were forced open and from what I hear users are now exclusively posting pictures of water vapor.

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That’s fantastic

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You’ll love what r/steam did.

I do! LOL! Thanks for letting us know.

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I want /r/ music to ban all music except covers of ‘Nearer My God to Thee’ or maybe ‘My Heart Will Go On’.

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Or 10 hour cuts of Last Christmas

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I’m amazed it’s not this song

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Darude - Sandstorm

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14 points

Only acoustic guitar covers of Wonderwall

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You made me go to reddit for a quick look, and I’m in love with it. John Oliver is indeed a sexy beast.

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