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Kendrick Lamar and Drake, they pretty big rappers, you may have heard of them.

They are presently releasing disses back and forth (tracks attacking the other). The screenshot above is from the latest Kendrick released, which goes into further detail of how Drake is a groomer.

Edit: Drake responded less than an hour ago.

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Ok, I don’t do rap. So they are just attacking each other for likes?

Is there some kind of neutral summary article? This sounds like a lot of he said/she said bullshit.

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Generally these sorts of feuds are a flash in the pan without breaking Kayfabe. This, however, is quite different.

Kendrick Lamar and Drake are two of the most successful artists in the industry. Their music appeals to very different tastes. Drake’s music has been relaxed, poppy, and laid-back. Think of the kind of hip-hop/pop that you’d listen to in a car with mixed company or at a bar. Kendrick Lamar’s work is much less approachable by pop-music standards. It’s more emotional, bitter, and raw. His most recent album feels almost like an explosive therapy session. They’ve both seen regular airtime, but Drake’s music is much more palatable to a wide audience.

Kendrick fans will see Drake’s music (and by extension, Drake himself) as “fake” or as a “sell-out” since his music aims for the most broad appeal possible without making a “statement”. Drake fans will see Kendrick and his music as “angsty”, downplaying Kendrick’s success since Drake is more popular in the “mainstream”.

They both have their pernicious aspects. Drake has allegedly used money and coercion to silence women that he’s slept with, allegedly isn’t super involved with the lives of his children, and allegedly surrounds himself with registered sex offenders (including allegations of questionable conduct coming from his Instagram account). Kendrick has… let’s say “complicated” opinions on R-Kelly and the way music platforms like Spotify responded to his downfall. However, to my knowledge, Kendrick faces far fewer allegations of sexual misconduct (at least nothing that’s publicly known).

What makes this particular “beef” (or feud) exceptional is the degree of vitriol coming from Kendrick toward Drake. And it’s not anything that Drake can really “defend” against. I’m not suggesting that Drake himself is a sex offender, but surrounding yourself with registered sex offenders is horrible optics. In addition, some of Drake’s entourage has flipped, becoming informants for Kendrick and confirming some of the rumors floating about.

Anyway, that’s my summary. Full disclosure: I personally prefer Kendrick’s music to Drake’s. However, I don’t really care too much about feuds in the rap world. I just hope no one resorts to violence.

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without breaking Kayfabe

You can’t just throw out terminology like that to explain something to someone who has already told you they don’t understand rap culture…

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I still have catching up to do. Which track goes into the R Kelly stuff?

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Drake’s main new allegation is that Kendrick allegedly committed domestic violence against his wife, and that one of his friends could be the real father of their kid. Which Kendrick chose not to respond too.

I’m sure no one who is actually involved will resort to violence, only dumb fans would do that.

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Basically Kendrick hates drake because drake is a pedo and like to act like a big bad gangster when really he’s a softie who diddles kids.

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think of it as two bards writing poems about each other

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We’ll probably have to wait for it to be over first but there’s this.

But it’s more than likes, Drake is a predator and bad for the culture

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So I guess I’ll just step out of this discussion then because I still don’t know what all this is about and how it plays into much of anything. Seems to me like anyone can just say something about anyone else and that’s taken as truth?

IDK, consider this my last comment here. Clearly I don’t have enough understanding to make a useful point or ask relevant questions.

EDIT: I said I wouldn’t comment again so I’m just going to edit this. YouTube and Twitter are NOT valid sources for…well…anything.

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Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

there’s this.

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lol his response sucks.

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Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

the latest Kendrick released

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