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101 points

I feel bad for the reasonable employees at SpaceX - this sucks for decent people.

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61 points

I don’t. Look, we already had this discussion years ago. You don’t feel bad for the stormtrooper, or their families when you blow up the deathstar. They knew what they were getting into.

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I’m sure there are plenty of people who started at SpaceX before we all truly knew the monster musk is. Also, the work they are doing is incredibly important. It’s hard to give that up. It shouldn’t be this hard to empathize with people

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14 points

Knowing many people who’ve worked for him, you have about 6 months at a MuskCo brand company max before you really know what a piece of shit he is, and either a.) leave ASAP, b.) convince yourself it won’t be so bad and hang on for ~2 years, or c.) fall into the cult of personality and believe that Daddy Elon loves his little proles and cares very much about all the hard work you’re doing [EMPLOYEE NUMBER HERE].

The absolute last stop on the “Musk is Tony Stark but IRL epic gamer Redditor and likes weed and Rick and Morty!” train was when he called that cave diver a pedophile. It was apparent well before then, but anyone acting like they had no idea what a piece of shit he was after that either didn’t hear about it, or was willfully ignorant because they wanted to continue pretending that basing their entire personality around a billionaire wasn’t a terrible idea.

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I thought that spacex was “incredibly important” once. Now I realize it’s a fast track to a more fucked earth. By the time we get to “planet B” “planet A” is going to be a fiery ball of shit.

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42 points

But they didn’t. The guy had me in the first half when he cried because Buzz Aldrin didn’t like him. Elon wasn’t always so obvious with his bullshit. There was a time when he looked minted as a purveyor of a bright future - the mask slipped.

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44 points

The mask has been off for at least 8 years.

No sympathy for anyone who still stans that phony.

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11 points

I mean, the stormtroopers were largely either conscripted, or they were clones who were raised in it. Very few were actual mercenaries or people who had a choice to join or not. I still feel bad for them.

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6 points

Stormtroopers is fair. What about maintenance staff?

What about prisoners?

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4 points

Does Elon Musk profit off slave labor from prisoners?

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5 points

I’m curious, is it reasonable to blame employees for their employers actions like this? I mean to a certain extent perhaps, depending on your position in the company (like if you are part of upper management then you are more responsible obviously).

Many people are just trying to get by and getting jobs is not easy. Is it okay to blame a person for working somewhere if they don’t have much other choice? Capitalism kinda forces you to work within the system like this.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z6SFL5fCCg

they built another deathstar right? the first one was completed and fully operational before the rebels destroyed it and the second one was still being built when it was blown up

the first death star was manned by the imperial army only people on board were stormtroopers dignitaries imperials so when they blew it up no problem evil punished

the second time around it was not even done being built yet was still under construction job of that magnitude would require a hell of lot more manpower than the imperial army had to offer

bet they brought in independent contractors in on that thing plumbers aluminum siders roofers

in order to get built quickly and quietly they would hire anyone to do the job you think the average stormtrooper knows how to install a toilet main

all they know is killing in white uniforms

all those innocent contractors brought in to do job are killed casualties of a war they had nothing to do with

alright look you’re roofer some juicy government comes your way you got a wife the two kids in suburbia

this is a government contract with all sort of benefits and along come these left wing militants and blast everything in a three mile radius with their lasers

they did not ask for that they had no personal politics they were just trying to scrape out a living

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12 points

“Innocent contractors”

Wtf 🤮

In my book it doesn’t matter if you are building or operating the gas chambers.

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2 points

Especially when the job market contracted with all the IT company layoffs, some people may be stuck in jobs they hate because opportunities are few and they’d rather not be homeless or have their kids not have food and so on.

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Maybe 5 years ago. They’ve had plenty of time to see reason and jump ship to anyone else. Elon hasn’t exactly been quiet with his escapades…

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4 points

People hate switching jobs.

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True, but I don’t know everyone’s situation.

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11 points

if you’re working at spacex or tesla you’re not reasonable.

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6 points

… or xitter.

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1 point

I have always felt Twixxer rolls off the tongue better, so I’m surprised Xitter seems to have gained more traction.

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8 points

If you’re working at one if his companies at this stage you probably already know about his management “style” and you’ve either already updated your resume or you’re just cool with it.

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1 point

Let’s not forget the Golden Handcuffs. Although given what was reported from Twitter, I’m not sure that applies.

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