The reason that you are running into situations like this is because you (the meme creator position) don’t witness the Centrist also vehemently argue with right-wing policies frequently.
You only see them argue with you and therefore have a skewed view of them and their politics. If you are left wing, and argue for left-wing policies in every case, that means you will also be argued with by somebody who believes political nuance and not just waving a party flag.
The right wing also shits on centrists because they think they are secretly left-wing since they argue with some of their stupider points as well.
These people are not secretly right-wing and just don’t have the balls to say it. That is a horrendous take no matter where you fall on the political spectrum the only serves to limit conversation.
I’ve participated often in a wide variety of conversations on a wide variety of platforms. The trick is, for some weird reason Centrists never vehemently argue with the right. I wonder why that is…
The truth is centrism is just a way to support the “convenient” part of conservatism while avoiding any blame for the “inconvenient” parts. It’s fence-sitting bullshit. Centrists simply equate to embarrassed conservatives.
One of many reasons for this could be your choice of topics, the location of the argument, and your perception. Any Centrists in the argument may be on your side of that particular issue and therefore are appearing left-leaning to you at the moment.
You not looking for them does not mean that they are not there. Them not coming out and identifying themselves continually does not mean they are not there.
Just like anything in science, your perception is not reality, especially when it seems that you are looking to enforce an opinion, not find the truth.
Most of the Centrists I’ve spoken to also tend to argue the issue, and not the side. They see sides and at-all-costs group membership as a form of lunacy.
I mean I only ever see the ones arguing with leftists actually admitting to being centrist, so if what you’re saying is true then maybe the centrist arguing with rightists should consider improving their PR by being more vocal about it. Because y’all only ever seem to bring up your political affiliation when arguing with one particular side, so no wonder you’ve developed a reputation based on that.
Centrists lack gumption. They lack imagination. You propose anything that exists outside of the current capitalist hellhole that we live in, and they will be the first to argue “but what about jobs? What about the economy?”
This planet will be covered in arctic floodwater and the centrists will be too concerned about making sure we have a fair argument about it.
“Both sidesism” will be the death of us all.
You’ve said the same thing three different ways now. If you are trying to assume I only discuss important matters on anonymous social media instead of at PTA meetings, divided family dialogue, protests, etc you’re wrong. I uphold my value of caring for others in every location, about every topic.
Centrists have the habit of excusing the most vile parts of conservatism for the parts they benefit from. They’ll consider voting for Trump, a proven liar/cheat/hatemonger over a milquetoast, truly milquetoast middle of the road Biden. The amount of gape necessary to straddle that fence could almost fit Trump himself inside it.
The truth is that the Dems are centrist. They’re not perfect, but conservatism is NOWHERE near the middle. Anyone can justify conservative policy cannot be a centrist. Just an embarrassed conservative.
I consider myself fairly centrist within the Canadian political sphere and I spend much more time shitting on social conservatives.
I may disagree with leftists on particular economic policies, but generally view them as good people who may be at worst a little naive. Social conservatives are just hateful.
I would love to see a centrist argue against right wing policies. Once.
Not even to me just in general. Surely there is a library of video / audio / text examples out there that for some reason hasn’t crossed my path, and a whole lotta shit has in almost 30 years of internet.
To quote myself above:
One of many reasons for this could be your choice of topics, the location of the argument, and your perception. Any Centrists in the argument may be on your side of that particular issue and therefore are appearing left-leaning to you at the moment. See Penn jillette, Richard Dawkins, Bill Maher and scads of psychologists authors for example of centrists who often appear to be one side or the other depending on the issue presented (and have been mislabeled as both sides by people not willing to understand nuance).
You not looking for them does not mean that they are not there. Them not coming out and identifying themselves continually does not mean they are not there.
Most of the Centrists I’ve spoken to also tend to argue the issue, and not the side. They see sides and at-all-costs group membership as a form of lunacy.
Just like anything in the world, your perception is not always reality, especially when it seems that you are looking to enforce an opinion, not find the truth.
Oh I gotcha. Right-leaning centrist here: fuck guns, don’t ban abortion.
It’s not that hard /shrug
It’s worse than them being secretly right wing and hiding it. They are right wing yet can’t admit it to themselves.
The reason that “the right” shits on “centrists,” at least in the American context, is because “the right” is about as far right as the Nazis and the “centrists” ignore this obvious fact because they agree with them on certain issues.
I think you’re under the impression that the Democrats are representative of the left, when that just isn’t the case. A good chunk of the Democratic voting base hates their party because the party doesn’t represent them that well. You make it seem like they are just supporting a team, when they are, in actuality, arguing for positions that are farther to the left than you can even comprehend.
The misunderstanding you have is that the Democrats are the left when they are actually fairly conservative.
