Comment by commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com on Almond Milk [Rule]

i buy petroleum products. i disagree with most of the aspects of their procurement, distribution, and use. if i stop buying them, none of that changes.

Petroleum production decreases as we implement alternatives. Are you really going to tell me this isn’t the case? 🤣

ETA: You know, for someone named commie, you’re spouting a lot of neoliberal nonsense. “Ah, no sense trying to change anything even if we don’t agree with it.”

“Ah, no sense trying to change anything even if we don’t agree with it.”

that’s not what i’m saying. i’m saying being vegan isn’t an effective way to change anything.

journey of a thousand miles, etc.

this platitude doesn’t make buying beans an effective way to reduce the ecological burden of agriculture

neither is fatalism an effective way to encourage change

i’m not being fatalistic. i just don’t believe buying beans is an effective way to fix the ecological problems of agriculture.

i’m telling you there is no causal mechanism by which consumption dictates production.

You’re really gonna tell me that meat production will be unchanged as more people have been adopting a plant-based diet. Good thing you don’t run Tyson, they’ve been having to close meat processing plants due to decreased demand.

You’re really gonna tell me that meat production will be unchanged as more people have been adopting a plant-based diet.

meat production continues to GROW even as MORE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ADOPTING A PLANT-BASED DIET.

Correlation != causation. Left unchecked, production will inevitably see some increase due to WHAT?! Increased population. However, anticipated growth hasn’t met expectations. Gee, almost like there’s a reason…

After that, I wonder how much production would decrease if we stopped giving animal agriculture their multi-billion dollar shot in the arm every year from the USDA versus the few million that plant alternatives gets. Wonder what would happen if we reversed that…

Correlation != causation.

i felt like this was the lesson i was trying to teach you.

production will inevitably see some increase due to WHAT

i don’t think it’s inevitable that population increase leads to increased production. this is another example of an assertion of a causal link where no such link exists.

Bro

There’s more PEOPLE period

Math is not that hard

There’s more PEOPLE

so?

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Rule: You must post before you leave.

^other ^rules

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