And just like the real world, as annoying as vegans are, they ultimately are ideologically right
Eh… both are questionable. Morally superior, maybe, but definitely not right.
Both aren’t really sustainable. Open source doesn’t pay live-able wages without some kind of proprietary component and going full vegan is very detrimental to the health and sometimes even the cause itself. I’m not a dictionary and english isn’t my first language, but in my understanding, the “right” thing should at least be viable, without taking compromises from the other side.
To clarify, I’m not saying that open-source and veganism are bad or we shouldn’t aim towards those. What I’m saying is that, while half-opensource like redhat and half-veganism (on supplements) is viable, so is all-meat diet and all-proprietary software, but not going full RMS opensource-only and getting rid of all animal-based products without causing even more damage to the ecosystem with the alternatives. Maybe we’re missing some puzzle pieces (like properly implemented communism) or the end-goal is a bit off, or, maybe, going half-way is actually the “right” thing all along.
as annoying as vegans are, they ultimately are ideologically right
about what?
The meat industry overall is bad for everyone, the amount of food it requires to feed the meat we eat is extremely wasteful. From an economic standpoint, meat is “bad”, let alone the lobbying done by the meat industry.
Eating meat increases the chances of heart disease. Some protein is good, but we eat way too much. From a public health standpoint, meat is “bad”
In general, it’s good to lessen harm. Factory slaughtering living things that grew up in what’s effectively a prison is not lessening harm.
But, I do like the taste of meat unfortunately. Ill splurge on lab grown meat when it becomes available, but even though I’m a hypocrite for liking the taste of meat doesn’t mean vegans are wrong because they’re annoying to deal with
the amount of food it requires to feed the meat we eat is extremely wasteful
a lot of what we give livestock are parts of plants that people can’t or won’t eat. that’s the opposite of wasteful.
Factory slaughtering living things that grew up in what’s effectively a prison is not lessening harm.
you can’t know that. consequentialist ethics run into this all the time: you can’t actually know what the future holds, and it may be that without the current agricultural system, even more harm would have been done.
