Comment by katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone on Being the Only Socialist in the Family Rule

i don’t know if i’m a socialist or whatever all i know is that i just want trans and gay people to be able to live their lives, women to not have men make decisions about their bodies, borders to be abolished, people to not want the earth to burn up, and to ducking just care about conserving endangered species.

bonus points for elected officials to behave like fucking grown ass adults for once.

I dont think anything you said would qualify you as a “socialist”

Counterpoint: If you ask most elected officials edit: in the US (of either party), any two of those as policy goals would make you a socialist.

fuck the US, why is it relevant what they think?

You’ll find out when we get done with our “Republic” arc and start the “Empire” one.

you have been on the empire thing for literal decades

You ain’t seen nothing yet, sheltered child of neoliberalism.

I think the abolition of borders falls under the umbrella of socialism

Socialism means one thing: democratic control over the economy. It’s radically left-wing in most of the world, and because of that socialists also advocate for other radically leftist ideas. I’m one of the radical leftists that don’t believe governments should exist at all in their current form, but that’s not what makes me a socialist.

Socialism being more international isn’t just because it’s radical, but because Communism can only exist fully if there is no Capitalism anywhere to re-emerge. What you’ve said is correct, just incomplete IMO.

isn’t government not existing just a form of libertarianism? (not trying to argue or anything; just genuinely curious)

before chuds hijacked it, libertarianism was always associated with the left. it was variously called anarchism and libertarian socialism.

Kind of. Communism itself is described as a Stateless, Classless, moneyless society, and Anarchism is Stateless as well. Socialism is just collective ownership of industry.

Depends on whether you think socialism is inherently globalist, which I wouldn’t say is necessarily true.

It might as well be considering the history of cross-country support. Class above nation, after all.

Socialism by definition will take care of most if not all of these

That’s a progressive outlook, but not a Socialist one, primarily because nothing you said has anything directly to do with Modes of Production.

A Socialist is someone who wants the Means of Production to be collectively shared, rather than privately owned. There are many forms of it, like Syndicalism, Anarchism, Marxism, Market Socialism, etc.

So by your example, a socialist is someone who’s not a dick? I can get behind that 😁.

Not necessarily. Those things can be fixed without instituting socialism (if they’re fixable. That’s not a given) and may even be done better without it based on socialism’s real record!

Same. I believe in the abolition of hierarchy in all forms and a society based on community and co-operation and don’t believe that any human should have any lever on power or control over any other person.

So…I guess I do know. Never mind.

I would settle for everybody banning TikTok and Facebook usage. That’s all I wanted for christmas.

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.

Rule: You must post before you leave.

^other ^rules

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